Just posted to Craigslist

[lorandunn]

My 1950 Deluxe that you all have helped me to get on the road. The cost of keeping a house and raising kids is getting too expensive to have toys laying around. Price is VERY negotiable for anyone who truly loves these old cars.

http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/1319080053.html

[Arthur1947]

Pictures always help. Best of luck.

[DLK]

My 1950 Deluxe that you all have helped me to get on the road. The cost of keeping a house and raising kids is getting too expensive to have toys laying around. Price is VERY negotiable for anyone who truly loves these old cars.

http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/1319080053.html

Sorry to hear that you have to do this but when we were raising our kids it would have been the same. I had to wait until our 4 were grown and gone (except for the revolving door with the last one ) before I could afford this pricey hobby. That said each of the cars I have owned has ended up costing me a lot more than I anticipated going in and every one was sold at a loss but I figure I had fun and my late model MOPAR cars depreciated faster yet. I agree that you will get more responses if you include pictures even if they show it needs work.

[lorandunn]

My camera is on the fritz but I have a couple coming from friends who cared enough to snap a few. Thanks Norm, I keep going back and forth on this decision. If it don't sell at that price, then I figure Good O'le Walter P. must be sending me signals from Heaven.

[Jerry Roberts]

I can understand that way of thinking . After my first son was born I sold my 1948 plymouth and didn't buy another old hobby vehicle until I was an empty nester . I had older vehicles but they were all economically practical . All of my spare time was spent with family and all of my spare money was invested . I had a blue collar job and put my kids through college . One time I was considering buying a 22 caliber pistol just for enjoyment and one of my sons was trying to think of something that I had purchased just for fun , he couldn't think of anything .

[Young Ed]

I can kind of tell this story from the other end of it. My Dad had lots of old cars around my entire life. I'm sure I'd be a totally different person today if he had decided to put the hobby on hold while I grew up. Now I'm sure there were car purchases and work that was put on hold to raise my sister and I but the cars were still around. And I learned to work on them and enjoy them.

[lorandunn]

Wow, there's alot to be said about that. My 14 year old loves to help me work on the old girl. I can remember working with my dad on all his old projects too...it gave me a lifelong appreciation for the art/craft. It would be a shame (in the long run) to deprive my kiddo the same enjoyment I got as a kid.

Gonna have to rethink this whole thing...thanks for the support guys.

[pflaming]

Your 14 year old son is only 2 years from driving. My daughter took my old 64 Dodge pickup to Santa Barbara, CA to college. Guess who took the kids to the beach? My son had a 66 Ford Fastback in the same college. No one noticed the BMW's and Mercedes but they noticed his '66. You have a perfect car for him: Won't go very fast, without A/C they won't go very far and it's paid for. NOW: get HIM some mowing jobs and have him pay for the upkeep and gas. It will be the best think you will ever teach him. Good Luck. The only problem will be the girls that will hang around!

[Captain Neon]

I'll be the first to admit that not the most attractive guy around. Dated one girl for a summer that dumped me once the P15 got put away for the winter. Also, we had a girl at our school that modeled professionally and competed in the Miss Teen USA pageant, and she would ask for rides in my P15.

[BobT-47P15]

My father never did any mechanic type work on our cars when I was growing up.

He would keep them clean and nice, but any work needed was done by an auto

shop. I don't recall any of our cars needing much, anyway.

He would tell stories of his youth occasionally, about the time he and a friend

worked on a Model T and then drove out west to Bryce Canyon and other points

in that part of the country on a summer trip. They would call or write home with

updates on their travels, which were published in the local paper.

In fact, they even traded the T in for some old Chevy

before returning home. That was in the 1930s sometime.

The joke at home always was.....about him rebuilding the

T and having a few parts left over - but it still ran fine.

Dad once bought, in the late 1950s, a rather run-down 1938 Chevy

sedan to use as a "fishing car". Had the floor shift....dull paint....

a couple cracked glasses.....and new tires. The dealer sold him the

car for $75, which he said was the value of that set of new tires.

I used to drive it up and down our alley, thought that was great

fun. Early driver training, I guess.

Became interested in cars on my own, just seeing other neat things

around town, like the Sumac Red 49 Plymouth convertible owned by

a local mechanic. And other cars belonging to high school fellows.

My first car, a not-so-shiny '47 Chevy fleetline two door, was purchased

for me by my grandfather for $115 off the back row of a local Mercury

dealership. He said he had also purchased Dad's first car for him.

The funny thing is - I never saw Grandpa (or grandma) drive. He always walked

to our family owned store in our small town, or rode with my parents.

Although Dad didn't work on cars, he liked woodworking......built 3

boats plus a Boy Scout equipment trailer in our garage. I would help

some with those projects. So, there can be other opportunities for

Dads and sons to share some time together.

I did mow lawns for some spending money too.......

[Captain Neon]

I used to haul hay and pull weeds when I was a teenager so that I could fix on my P15.

[BobT-47P15]

I tried hauling hay one summer along with a friend who was already working for some

farmer fellow. Boy, was that hot and unpleasant. Being as I was a kinda not very

big, skinny kid - those bales were heavy. A couple of days, and I retired from that

field of endeavor.

[DLK]

Wow, there's alot to be said about that. My 14 year old loves to help me work on the old girl. I can remember working with my dad on all his old projects too...it gave me a lifelong appreciation for the art/craft. It would be a shame (in the long run) to deprive my kiddo the same enjoyment I got as a kid.

Gonna have to rethink this whole thing...thanks for the support guys.

My three sons 33, 31 and 25 have no interest in vehicles except to drive them. The 33 year old called me a month ago for instructions on changing a flat tire on his Neon. Maybe I get some of the blame for not getting them interested but I feel bad that my fondness for tinking on old cars rubbed off on none of them. I would sure encourage you to encourage that 14 year old to keep working with Dad on that old car.

[pflaming]

I think I am going to cut and paste all these 'dads / sons' stores to one page and send them to my sons who have sons. Like others, my dad WORKED me and my brother and I decided not to do that with my sons. BAD MISTAKE! My oldest son learned it on his own and now I am working with my youngest (33) to teach him so he can teach his son.

In tough times the tough get creative. Lawsuits aside, people still need help.

[Captain Neon]

My father actually had cattle, hogs, ducks, and a huge lawn w/ a gigantic windbreak so that my brother and I had plenty to do. I hated cleaning calf pens and the hog barn! Once we went to college, he stopped raising steers. Since he didn't have the livestock, my sister never had to mow lawn and he had more time to play with cars and woodworking.

When we were younger we thought that he did all of this stuff so that he could work us. Teenagers we thought it was because we were helping the family. Now that I'm older, I realise it really was just to keep us busy and out of trouble.

We never had an Atari, and didn't have a VCR until I was 18. It was hard enough to get me away from the TV and computer (after 12). I love movies and computers. Can you imagine how much harder it would have been to get me to work if we had video games and movies?

When my siblings and I deal with the in-laws and their absurd family meetings where it takes hours to decide where to go to dinner. It kind'a makes me glad to have grown up in a "fascist dictatorship." We did what my dad said or there were unpleasant consequences. Wife still chafes under the whole Scottish clan structure where even if my father is visiting our home he still tells me what to do.

I am always amased at how many people my age actually pay someone to do so many things that I don't even think twice about doing myself. It can't really be a time thing. With all the time spent in scheduling, delivering, and picking up a vehicle for an oil change, I figure I'd already be done.

[lorandunn]

My three sons 33, 31 and 25 have no interest in vehicles except to drive them. The 33 year old called me a month ago for instructions on changing a flat tire on his Neon. Maybe I get some of the blame for not getting them interested but I feel bad that my fondness for tinking on old cars rubbed off on none of them. I would sure encourage you to encourage that 14 year old to keep working with Dad on that old car.

My daughter, Ally-the 14 year old in question, is kind of a greaser chick. She can weld better than most grown men and is quite pretty too--already has the boys in shop class going crazy. She repaired my floors for me while I was at work one day then thought enough about it to POR15 the whole thing too!

Edited August 17, 2009 by lorandunn

[BobT-47P15]

Sounds like a pretty darn bright young lady.