OT...1957 Nash Rambler...OT

[Plymouthy Adams]

good going Pat...this will make you feel a bit better toward your purchase...if you were to put the bent push rod in a drill press...odds are with a bit of tapping with a wooded block while support the opposite side with another wooded block..you could get the rod pretty much straightened out..

[RobertKB]

It's always good when something goes right. Sounds like you will have your driver after all.

[PatS....]

I'm not about to do an engine swap, but this is very very interesting.

How about a Skyline powered Turbo Rambler!! (from New Zealand)

That thing almost changes my mind about a Japanese engine in an American car...the sound is wild!!!

I wonder if it will fit in the '49:eek:

[greg g]

Jeep motor.................

[PatS....]

Jeep motor.................

Would it sound as wild as the turbo Rambler???

(no swapping in the Rambler...just driving!)

[greg g]

probably not but I think the basic dimensions of the 4.0 motor are the same as the engine in your car. 175 to 190 Hp stock 4 speed auto with lockup. LOts of afer market support and if you have jeep folks in your area, they will pull them out in favor of chevy stuff for mud running and rock crawling, so engines and transmissions may plentiful and realatively inexpesive. And you can retro fit to do away with the computer and fuel inj if yo want to.

[PatS....]

probably not but I think the basic dimensions of the 4.0 motor are the same as the engine in your car. 175 to 190 Hp stock 4 speed auto with lockup. LOts of afer market support and if you have jeep folks in your area, they will pull them out in favor of chevy stuff for mud running and rock crawling, so engines and transmissions may plentiful and realatively inexpesive. And you can retro fit to do away with the computer and fuel inj if yo want to.

Greg, the big hurdle with the Rambler is the torque tube. I'd have to hang springs and a rear end on a unit body to use anything but the engine that's in it.

No, this car will be done on a tune it up, make it steer and stop basis for the forseeable future.

[greg g]

Wonder if the old trans would bolt to the jeep engine??? I see your point, plus with your structural non integrity an newer torqueyer motor probly is't in the pic anyway.

[PatS....]

Wonder if the old trans would bolt to the jeep engine??? I see your point, plus with your structural non integrity an newer torqueyer motor probly is't in the pic anyway.

Greg, the trans in it now won't bolt up to anything but a 196 Rambler or a 200 cubic inch Ford! Apparently they used the same transmission, but certainly not worth the trouble to do a swap as nothing else lines up.

I would like a floor shifter as I despise 3 on the tree shifters

The 258 is a bit too long for this engine bay and needs a different trans which needs a different torque tube $$$$$$$$$$$

I will attempt to properly repair the structural rust underneath, though. I had a look and it's not as bad as I thought.

I can't physically do much yet or I would be working on my Chrysler, so this one won't be getting much done to it...just the very basics to get it on the road

[B-Watson]

Greg, the trans in it now won't bolt up to anything but a 196 Rambler or a 200 cubic inch Ford! Apparently they used the same transmission, but certainly not worth the trouble to do a swap as nothing else lines up.

I would like a floor shifter as I despise 3 on the tree shifters

The 258 is a bit too long for this engine bay and needs a different trans which needs a different torque tube $$$$$$$$$$$

I will attempt to properly repair the structural rust underneath, though. I had a look and it's not as bad as I thought.

I can't physically do much yet or I would be working on my Chrysler, so this one won't be getting much done to it...just the very basics to get it on the road

The transmission used in the 1957 Rambler (Flashomatic) was Borg-Warner's 3-speed auto that first appeared in 1951 as the Fordomatic and Mercomatic. Low is 1st gear while Drive has 2nd gear start and a shift to third. The unit had a cast iron case. This is not the same Fordomatic that was hooked up to Falcon and Comet engines. The Falcon/Comet transmission was a 2-speed and, outside of the name, shared nothing with the earlier 3-speed.

Studebaker used the same transmission under the Flightomatic name from 1956 through 1966. An aluminum case version was introduced in the late 1950's , the T-35, that had a 1st gear start in Drive. Forget when Rambler started to use it, but Studebaker used it on their 6-cylinder models from 1961 through 1966.

A third version appeared around 1963-64 with a floor shift and a gear selector with 1, 2 and D. Rambler called it Shift Command and Studebaker was Powershift. The bigger 1958-62 Rambler models (108" and 117" wheelbase models) offered a pushbutton version of the Flashomatic with 2 cables - one for park and the second for the other gears. The same buttons were used on 1957-58 Mercury and Monarch models.

AMC switched to Chrysler's Torqueflite for 1972, although Jeep carried on with GM automatics into the days of Chrysler ownership.

[PatS....]

The transmission used in the 1957 Rambler (Flashomatic) was Borg-Warner's 3-speed auto that first appeared in 1951 as the Fordomatic and Mercomatic. Low is 1st gear while Drive has 2nd gear start and a shift to third. The unit had a cast iron case. This is not the same Fordomatic that was hooked up to Falcon and Comet engines. The Falcon/Comet transmission was a 2-speed and, outside of the name, shared nothing with the earlier 3-speed.

Studebaker used the same transmission under the Flightomatic name from 1956 through 1966. An aluminum case version was introduced in the late 1950's , the T-35, that had a 1st gear start in Drive. Forget when Rambler started to use it, but Studebaker used it on their 6-cylinder models from 1961 through 1966.

A third version appeared around 1963-64 with a floor shift and a gear selector with 1, 2 and D. Rambler called it Shift Command and Studebaker was Powershift. The bigger 1958-62 Rambler models (108" and 117" wheelbase models) offered a pushbutton version of the Flashomatic with 2 cables - one for park and the second for the other gears. The same buttons were used on 1957-58 Mercury and Monarch models.

AMC switched to Chrysler's Torqueflite for 1972, although Jeep carried on with GM automatics into the days of Chrysler ownership.

Bill, I have a 3 on the tree manual (I hate 3 on the tree:mad:)

It's a T96, which was also used on the Ford 200 inline six. It's apparently not a bolt in engine swap, but the T96 transmission in my car will bolt to the Ford bellhousing.

Not that I would ever get into that swap!

A factory T96 floor shifter would be nice