Update on My Project

[Joe Flanagan]

Well, we had halfway decent weather today. I decided to start stripping the original paint off my car. Body filler and primer is my next step but I can't do either in these temperatures. I decided to get a head start on the paint removal. You'll notice the roof and posts are already in primer. I did that some time ago.

Another thing I'm ready to do is install my brake lines. I have disc in the front and the original drums in the rear. I think I might have asked about this some time ago but is all I need the residual valve? If so, can anyone post a pic showing where it's located and what it looks like? Do I also need a proportioning valve? I seem to remember someone saying that you really only needed one of these.

[RobertKB]

Good to see you are moving ahead on your project. Keep us updated with more pictures as things develop. Not sure about the residual valve but I am sure someone can answer your question.

[Don Coatney]

Residual valves, blue to the front, red to the rear. I did not use a proportioning valve and my brakes work well. Others have recommend a proportioning valve. Rodney was riding in my car when I had to use my brakes hard. He was impressed.

[Joe Flanagan]

Thanks a lot, Don. That's exactly what I needed to know. If you slammed on the brakes and Rodney was impressed, that's good enough for me. Where did you get your valves?

[Don Coatney]

Thanks a lot, Don. That's exactly what I needed to know. If you slammed on the brakes and Rodney was impressed, that's good enough for me. Where did you get your valves?

My valves came with my Plydo kit. Not sure where you can buy them.

[tinlizzy]

I believe you should be able to get those from anyone who sells power boosters for disc brakes. Advertisers in hot rod mags should carry them.

Joe where did you get your car dollies?

[Merle Coggins]

Residual valves are also available through places like Jeg's and Summit.

[PatS....]

According to the MP Power brakes site, the proportioning valve does what Don's two valves do plus it applies the rear brakes a bit before the front to reduce diving.

I used a proportioning valve from a mid 70's Chevelle on my old '50 Dodge with the PlyDo kit.

[Joe Flanagan]

tinlizzie,

I believe I got them from JC Whitney. It was a long time ago so I don't remember exactly but I'm pretty sure it was there. They work really well but you have to have a flat surface. They get hung up easily if there is anything uneven beneath them. The floor of my garage is unfinished concrete and they had trouble rolling on that surface so I had to lay plywood down. Right now, I can roll the thing with some effort but once I put the engine in, I doubt I'll be able to do that anymore. I'm hoping I can, though.

[PatS....]

Joe where did you get your car dollies?

These seem pretty good...and they're Made In USA!!!

http://www.tireskate.com/index.php

[Joe Flanagan]

Hey Don, I located the valves at Jegs. The blue is 2 lbs. for the front and the red is 10 lbs. for the rear, correct? What is that fancy looking thingy you show in your picture by which you mounted the valves to the frame? Looks like it's got rubber sleeves to hold the valves? Was this something you cooked up in your laboratory? Also, I'm assuming that our MCs are lower than the brake calipers, is that correct?

[blueskies]

According to the MP Power brakes site, the proportioning valve does what Don's two valves do plus it applies the rear brakes a bit before the front to reduce diving.

I used a proportioning valve from a mid 70's Chevelle on my old '50 Dodge with the PlyDo kit.

I think it depends on the type of proportioning valve you are using... I have one on my '53 chevy truck that does not have integral residual check valves. It is basically an adjustable gate valve that reduces the amount of flow.

I have the same red and blue valves on the truck that Don has on his car.

Pete

[Don Coatney]

Hey Don, I located the valves at Jegs. The blue is 2 lbs. for the front and the red is 10 lbs. for the rear, correct? What is that fancy looking thingy you show in your picture by which you mounted the valves to the frame? Looks like it's got rubber sleeves to hold the valves? Was this something you cooked up in your laboratory? Also, I'm assuming that our MCs are lower than the brake calipers, is that correct?

Actually the picture I posted is not my car. I plumbed my lines a bit differently and I do not have a picture of them. You are correct the master cylinder is level with or lower than the brake calipers. Presure bleeding is required.

[Frank Elder]

Those are adel clamps, or hydraulic line clamps. Used in aviation originally, now available to the public.Many, many different sizes and applications.

Should be able to get them at hardware or auto stores, we have them at work at the Semi and trailer shop.

[Chester Brzostowski]

Well, we had halfway decent weather today. I decided to start stripping the original paint off my car. Body filler and primer is my next step but I can't do either in these temperatures. I decided to get a head start on the paint removal. You'll notice the roof and posts are already in primer. I did that some time ago.

Another thing I'm ready to do is install my brake lines. I have disc in the front and the original drums in the rear. I think I might have asked about this some time ago but is all I need the residual valve? If so, can anyone post a pic showing where it's located and what it looks like? Do I also need a proportioning valve? I seem to remember someone saying that you really only needed one of these.

Hi Joe,

This is Chet in Sterling VA. Your car is looking real nice. I’m having my 48 painted in the spring. We are pretty close so one of these days I should stop by and say hello. Who knows maybe Don might make it back to VA in 09. I haven’t been on the forum much these days just too busy with the day job and the winter honey do list. Currently remolding the kitchen.

Well good luck with your body work,

Chet…

[Joe Flanagan]

Hi Chet,

Nice to hear from you. I was following the progress of your car since you were doing what I plan to do this spring. I would like to compare notes, particularly about painting. Seems you've done a lot of the things I have or am getting ready to do. Your car looks great, by the way. And yes, we should meet up at some point when the weather improves. I spend long periods away from the forum too, and for the same reasons. Last thing was an upstairs bathroom remodel, mostly cosmetic but still a ton of work.

By the way, can anyone tell me if those residual valves are just bolt in items? I take it they are pre-set to a certain amount of pressure and you don't have to do any adjusting?

[Jim Yergin]

Joe,

They are pre-set so there is no adjusting. However, as you can see in the picture Don posted, you may need to get some brass fittings to attach the brake lines when you go to "bolt them in."

On another note, it never ceases to amaze me that for the smallest room in the house, the bathroom always takes the most time and work.

Jim Yergin

[Joe Flanagan]

That's what I told my wife! I couldn't believe all the tools and junk I had to take out. And I was just reskimming the plaster, replacing the light/ceiling fan, painting, recaulking, and repairing broken sash cords on a window. I thought I'd never get out of there.

Thanks for the info on the valves. Regarding the brass fittings, you're talking about the device he used to mount them to the frame?

[Jim Yergin]

Joe,

The fittings I was referring to are the ones that screw into the ends of the valves and then the brake line screws into the fitting.

Jim Yergin

[Joe Flanagan]

OK, I got it. Those shouldn't be hard to find, I don't suppose. Jim, I still got your charger and your brake drum puller. I obviously haven't found time to drive them out to you but I will try to do so soon. Also, if you're ever in my neighborhood, let me know.

[Don Coatney]

the smallest room in the house, the bathroom always takes the most time and work.

Jim Yergin

Why is it that the bathroom is the smallest room in a house when everybody in the house spends a lot of time in there daily? Why is it that the electrical outlets in a house are placed by "code" where you cannot reach them without contorting yourself totally in an uncomfortable position? Why is the height of a bathroom sink so low (by code) that it hurts my back to wash my hands there? Why is it that if you try and build a comfortable house that the code cops will not allow you to do so?

[Jim Yergin]

OK, I got it. Those shouldn't be hard to find, I don't suppose. Jim, I still got your charger and your brake drum puller. I obviously haven't found time to drive them out to you but I will try to do so soon. Also, if you're ever in my neighborhood, let me know.

Joe,

Absolutely no rush on those things. I obviously haven't needed them and if I do I know where they are. I am building up my confidence on driving my Plymouth and when I get to the next level (driving on the interstate) I would like to drive it to your house, show you my car, and see your project in person.

Jim Yergin

[Chester Brzostowski]

Hi Chet,

Nice to hear from you. I was following the progress of your car since you were doing what I plan to do this spring. I would like to compare notes, particularly about painting. Seems you've done a lot of the things I have or am getting ready to do. Your car looks great, by the way. And yes, we should meet up at some point when the weather improves. I spend long periods away from the forum too, and for the same reasons. Last thing was an upstairs bathroom remodel, mostly cosmetic but still a ton of work.

By the way, can anyone tell me if those residual valves are just bolt in items? I take it they are pre-set to a certain amount of pressure and you don't have to do any adjusting?

Joe,

I agree about the bathroom. The flush arm on our john broke just before Valentines Day. I hung the pull chain off the side of the tank with a paperclip hoping to get to the repair on the upcoming weekend. Of course the temporary fix worked fine by pulling on the paperclip and hanging it back when done.

Now…, On Valentines Day I have given the wife a hart shaped box of chocolate for the last 35 years. She says to me instead of the box of chocolates, which she says she doesn’t need, how about fixing the john with a handle that matches the other fixtures. Which I did on V day.

The moral of the story is:

Nothing say’s I love you like fixing the toilet. It’s a gift that just keeps on giving.

Chet…

PS.., Jim I love the adventure of a road trip. Stop by and pick me up I have plenty of tools. I know you can make it.., after all my 29 made it to Winchester.

[55 Fargo]

Joe,

I agree about the bathroom. The flush arm on our john broke just before Valentines Day. I hung the pull chain off the side of the tank with a paperclip hoping to get to the repair on the upcoming weekend. Of course the temporary fix worked fine by pulling on the paperclip and hanging it back when done.

Now…, On Valentines Day I have given the wife a hart shaped box of chocolate for the last 35 years. She says to me instead of the box of chocolates, which she says she doesn’t need, how about fixing the john with a handle that matches the other fixtures. Which I did on V day.

The moral of the story is:

Nothing say’s I love you like fixing the toilet. It’s a gift that just keeps on giving.

Chet…

PS.., Jim I love the adventure of a road trip. Stop by and pick me up I have plenty of tools. I know you can make it.., after all my 29 made it to Winchester.

Now the question is Chet, did you sneak off on V day to do anything to the P 15, could you imagine if the Wives said this, instead of buying me a gift, how about you work on the car a bit more...........LOL

[Jim Yergin]

Joe,

PS.., Jim I love the adventure of a road trip. Stop by and pick me up I have plenty of tools. I know you can make it.., after all my 29 made it to Winchester.

Chet,

Sounds good to me. We will have to check with Joe for when would be a good time for him.

Jim Yergin