Will look at the 50 Chrysler.

[BobT-47P15]

Talked to the seller tonight........says the car is kinda rough and no title.

Really just a parts car. Sitting out in a fence row behind a house and

over the hill......not visable from the road. If I go, will take the camera.

I can see the steering wheel is a goner; the pasngr windshield looks

broken. May be some good glass. Looks like trim has been removed.

Hood and fenders might be ok, even if rusty. Asking $450 for it.

[PatS....]

Looks like a 49 by the wrap-around rear bumper...50 didn't have that detail. This tail-light was 49 only as well.

1949 grille:

[BobT-47P15]

Just looked at the ad again......the sellers are calling it a 54 Chrysler.

I don't think that's correct. But will just look and see, no matter.

Could be a 49 as Pat suggests. Always interesting to find out.

[RobertKB]

'54 would not have the split windshield either. My guess is '49 or '50 and Pat is probably right about the rear bumper.

[PatS....]

Just looked at the ad again......the sellers are calling it a 54 Chrysler.

I don't think that's correct. But will just look and see, no matter.

Could be a 49 as Pat suggests. Always interesting to find out.

Bob, if the firewall tag is there, the 49 is a C45.

That grille is getting very very hard to find, or even parts of the grille and the little "whiskers" that wrap around the front fenders, as well as the bumper guards. The dash is getting rare as well.

Might be worth buying to resell those parts if they are there and in good shape. These are all the same as the 49 T&C $$$$

The back fenders are 49 only to accommodate the wraparound bumper, the gravel Shields are hard to find as well as the license plate surround with the brake lights. These are not T&C items but rare nonetheless.

The second series 49 was only made for about seven months, so 49 specific stuff is worth hanging on to.

1950 for comparison. 3 pce rear large rear window, taillights and rear fender/bumper are different and the grille is different.

[Norm's Coupe]

I don't know Bob. Looks like that car may pretty much be shot bad enough that it wouldn't even be worth $450 in parts.

Several years ago I helped a guy load a 52 DeSoto he bought for the grill to put into his 50 Merc. That's about all that was good on that car. The rear wheels were frozen and wouldn't roll. So we opened the trunk to jack the rear up with boards so we could use the come along on the trailer to pull it up. That wasn't a problem because there was no floor in the trunk and very little inside the car. The body was so rusted that you could put your finger through the steel with not much effort too. Only thing that may have been good on the car was what was in the dash and I doubt much of that was good either. We never could get the car up on the trailer with the come along. Finally the farmer came out with his front end loader, picked up the rear of the car and pushed it up onto the trailer. From the pictures, this Chrysler looks about the same condition.

[Young Ed]

Norm if you took that Chrysler directly to the scrap yard you'd get about 400 just for the steel. So if there are good parts on it and someone wants to put the effort into selling the good stuff and scraping the rest they'd come out ahead.

[Norm's Coupe]

Ed,

I realize scrap prices are up. However, it doesn't look like there is much left on that car to remove and sell. So........is it really worth the time and effort? Sometimes its best to just let a sleeping dog sleep.

[Young Ed]

Mostly that depends on the time space and ability of the buyer. Also you cant really see the whole car. Some of the parts missing could be in the trunk or inside. But you've got the dash door handles a bumper probably the front bumper and grill. That front fender might even be reuseable. That stuff would add up to 450 fairly quickly.

[PatS....]

Ed' date='

I realize scrap prices are up. However, it doesn't look like there is much left on that car to remove and sell. So........is it really worth the time and effort? Sometimes its best to just let a sleeping dog sleep.[/quote']

The picture Bob posted doesn't even show enough of the car to even date it nevermind determine it's condition as far as some good parts goes. I would grab the rare 49 only parts if they are good and then haul the rest off.

I tried to part out the 50 DeSoto of what was left which was mostly mechanical but some body parts and there was zero interest sadly, and it too went to the scrapper. I got zero $ for it, but they came and got it for me.

Scrap price difference is great. A whole 49 here MIGHT get $100 if it's complete with engine and trans. A friend drove her 84 Grand Marquis to the scrapper here a while back, licensed and insured and on the road. She was offered $17 seventeen dollars!!

[Norm's Coupe]

Ed,

That's only if the metal is still good under all that rust. Even so, if the fenders are good they are not that easily shipped, without building a crate for them so they don't get bent up any worse than they've already rusted. And, can you really get that much to make it worth your while, for a fender that needs a lot of work?

Not only that, but dismantling that car takes time (or any car). So.......do you really have all that extra time, just to make a couple hundred bucks? I don't. I have other better fun things to do in my spare time than to try and make a couple hundred bucks off something like that Chrysler. From Bob's post over the years I think he does too.

[PatS....]

Valid points, Norm. Still, very sad to see all those parts gone forever. If it was a hunk of artwork by some whacked out artist, the gov't would fork out millions to preserve the past for the future generations.

Old cars are just junk, until they are restored, then they get the OOOH's and AAHH's.

[Norm's Coupe]

The picture Bob posted doesn't even show enough of the car to even date it nevermind determine it's condition as far as some good parts goes. I would grab the rare 49 only parts if they are good and then haul the rest off.

I tried to part out the 50 DeSoto of what was left which was mostly mechanical but some body parts and there was zero interest sadly, and it too went to the scrapper. I got zero $ for it, but they came and got it for me.

Scrap price difference is great. A whole 49 here MIGHT get $100 if it's complete with engine and trans. A friend drove her 84 Grand Marquis to the scrapper here a while back, licensed and insured and on the road. She was offered $17 seventeen dollars!!

Pat,

That's my point. Even that guy who bought the DeSoto I mentioned didn't think he'd get what he paid for the car back. I did salvage the windshield wiper motor assembly and switch out of it. He was going to remove the gauges, radio etc. out of the dash, then junk the rest.

[Young Ed]

Norm I do have the time. I've done it twice to P15s already. Also at least one 39-47 mopar truck. Granted I probably wouldn't do it for a car I didnt own a model of. And I enjoy taking things apart. There are parts on my truck I didn't know how to properly put together without the parts trucks too. Fenders can be shipped if you want. No wooden crate required. Just a box. I've gotten a pair of 39-40 truck front fenders, one fender for the 55 dodge, a set of 39-47 box sides(6.5 ft long!) and am currently working on a set of 39-47 rear fenders.

[BobT-47P15]

The seller was going to try and e-mail me some additional pictures, but

never did receive them. I am just going to look - don't really plan to buy

the car. If there are any good re-usable parts left, might try to buy them

and leave the car with the seller to scrap.

They also have a Corvair convertible, but it's not so hot either apparently.

I have no handy way to haul such a car, except to hire a wrecker guy.

That would add at least $50 to the cost. And do not have much

storage room for larger items like fenders......so that's not a good

option either. So, nothing may come of the trip except to see what

the car is or isn't. Film at eleven..........

[Norm's Coupe]

Norm I do have the time. I've done it twice to P15s already. Also at least one 39-47 mopar truck. Granted I probably wouldn't do it for a car I didnt own a model of. And I enjoy taking things apart. There are parts on my truck I didn't know how to properly put together without the parts trucks too. Fenders can be shipped if you want. No wooden crate required. Just a box. I've gotten a pair of 39-40 truck front fenders, one fender for the 55 dodge, a set of 39-47 box sides(6.5 ft long!) and am currently working on a set of 39-47 rear fenders.

But...........Do you also have a "Honey Do" list? :D

[Young Ed]

I have a self inforced list. I've installed all new windows in the main floors of my house(still need to do the basement windows at some point) new front steps etc. Built that little flower garden area in the front yard a few weeks ago. So I had the list already and the honey has now come after the fact

[Norm's Coupe]

I have a self inforced list. I've installed all new windows in the main floors of my house(still need to do the basement windows at some point) new front steps etc. Built that little flower garden area in the front yard a few weeks ago. So I had the list already and the honey has now come after the fact

Ed, give it time. Now that you have the honey, your list to do things, and go places will get much, much longer as time goes by.

My son has lots of things he does too, including old car stuff of his own and helping others. Plus taking care of projects at his house. But..........he's also single and can do what he wants, when he wants. And, if he wants a junker sitting in the driveway or yard, there is no one to bug him about getting it done and out of sight.

[BobT-47P15]

On my lunch hour. Definitely no way this car can be seen from the

street. The owner has had it for quite a while.....evidently bought

it as it sits and has never done anything to it. Had a motor, but the

head was in the trunk. Is a 49 model for sure.

Still has what probably would be a good

radiator, has a pair of trumpet horns in the back seat, and has a

set of the wheel covers that look like a small cap with white trim

ring.......but are actually a full wheel cover. The white part is

rusted, but the center chrome part looks pretty decent. Probably

could be restored.

The grille, front bumper and all stainless are

gone. On the trunk lid, all the trim is off. Still has usable rear

bumper with only one guard left. Stone shields weren't too bad.

Interior not good. Body pretty straight. Probably actually no worse

than what some guys here have started with.

Took several pictures, but won't be able to post them til later

tonight after the music gig.

If anyone really needs any of those items, let me know and I can make the guy

an offer. He did not accept the $25 I offered for the horns, caps & radiator.

[Norm's Coupe]

Well.....a bumper core is worth about $10 to $15. The stone shields may be worth about $50 or so, windshield trim maybe around $20 to $30. A decent windshield center bar maybe $30 to $45. Figuring in the cost of hauling the car home, it wouldn't be worth much.

As for the horns, radiator and wheel covers, $25 sounds like a decent offer since you nor he knows if the horns or radiator are any good. He should have jumped on your offer.

Sounds like just a rusted out shell of a car overall.

[PatS....]

Never figured out some people like this. Nobody wants to buy it, he's threatening to sell it for scrap if it isn't sold and yet he turns down a cash offer for parts????

That's all it is is a parts car and when all the good stuff is gone, you take what you're offered for the rest.

[Plymouthy Adams]

I'd send it to the crusher first also..the radiator is worth more than that in scrap price condition..

[BobT-47P15]

Only reason I didn't offer more is---I don't personally need any of that

stuff and have not had any replies from anyone that does. So I just

gave it a shot. If I have any reason to get serious, I could go back and

maybe work out a deal that suits him. Don't really need more "stuff"

around the garage these days.

[Norm's Coupe]

Really, I don't think the radiator is worth all that much as scrap. It doesn't weigh that much and neither do the horns and hubcaps. The guy could have sold those to Bob for the $25 and still get about the same price for the car as scrap.

I also don't think a radiator is worth all that otherwise either. Who knows what condition it's in. It may not even be restorable. I certainly wouldn't take a chance on it being good. I wouldn't give 2 cents for it not knowing if it's good. Lets face it, you can buy a new aftermarket radiator cheaper than you can rebuild one. Yes, if it wasn't any good you could also scrap it. But.........there again it wouldn't be worth my time to take it to the scrap yard, for the little I might get for it.

I think the guy just figured he had a sucker on the hook and Bob really needed those parts. So........he was only going to sell the whole car or nothing just to get it out of his hair.

[Plymouthy Adams]

and who has the parts now? enough said...