Kustom52Mopar Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 So I Popped my oil bath off I was using to switch it over. Cut the guts out of the top and cleaned everything out just like the pics show. Got the filter and it sets together beautifully. Put it on the car and it acts like I've got the choke pulled all the way out, hard to go and if you give 3/4 throttle or more it just bogs down and pops. I pulled over and poped the little chrome cheap guy I was using while I had the oil bath off and problem gone. Whats the deal???? I've taken it apart and double and triple checked and the top is not sealing with the bottom restricting air. I noticed the bottom portion has a cavity in it but its cleaned out and free of anything. Tried it again and same thing. Just at a loss with it, any ideas??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 I hope this is not an insulting question..but you did leave a gap between the lid and the cannister? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kustom52Mopar Posted September 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 No Tim thats not insulting, here's a pic of it just as I took it off. The gap is a tad wider than before I switched it over. Here's a couple more pics of the rest of it. Heres the filter in it with the top off. Here is the inside of the top with everything cut out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric wissing Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 I had the same problem. The car ran fine in the garage with no air filter on. I would put it on and I couldn't go more than 5 mph. I would go back pull the air cleaner thinking the carb was messed up. Finally figured it out with some outside help. Drill some holes. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 I did one for the 49 long back..car is since gone but for some reason I remember cutting the top skirt off the the lid so as not to restrict the air flow..just for giggles..invert the lid and be sure it is sealed agains the filter..start it up..if it runs fine the filter is sufficient size for air flow...but the restriction of the skirt and housing would then be an issue.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kustom52Mopar Posted September 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Well I wouldn't think I should have to drill holes in it. Seems like it would flow more air with the paper element. By that there is more surface area on the paper element for air flow than the packing in the lid as it was stock. Besides mine was nasty and full of crud and the car ran alright with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kustom52Mopar Posted September 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Thanks Tim, I'll give that a shot and go from there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Elder Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Has anyone chromed a stock base and lid converted for paper filter? FRANKIE47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Suhling Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 I found that if you put the gasket that goes between the tank and the stool of a toilet in the bottom of your filter it will center up the paper filter perfectly or a least it did on mine also helps seal the bottom of the filter. Harvey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dan Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Speaking of the air filters. Does anyone have a part number for the proper gasket between the carb and the air filter? I don't even know what it's supposed to look like (where it's supposed to seal on the carb). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Elder Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 In the 46-48 d-24 parts book the gasket no. is 14-29-5. Dang ,I think I may have finally helped someone! Hope that works for ya..FRANKIE47 Think I really need a Hollanders Interchange Manual! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kustom52Mopar Posted September 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Little update, this is wierd. The stud wasn't long enough to flip the lid so I used a lid off a 10" air cleaner and had my hood off. Had the hood off to knock a few dents out. So with that lid with and the hood off put the filter in direct path of air, IT STILL DOES IT! I take the filter out of the oil bath base and its just fine. Is it the filter? Have you ever heard of a brand new air filter doing this???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric wissing Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 I had to drill holes!! Weird yes. but I went through the whole thing. It took me 6 months to figure out it was the air cleaner. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Perhaps its too much of a restrictive filter. try a different brand of filter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Frank Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Had this issue with an old Land Rover back in the 70s. I got a 2" taller filter, same ID and OD. It raised the top of the canister enough that the increased air flow/decreased resistance solved it. 1/2" or 3/4 " might well have been enough, but I didn't have the patience to try 1/4" increments until I hit the jackpot. BTW, are you getting a good seal between the filter and the lid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Frank Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Little update, this is wierd. The stud wasn't long enough to flip the lid so I used a lid off a 10" air cleaner and had my hood off. Had the hood off to knock a few dents out. So with that lid with and the hood off put the filter in direct path of air, IT STILL DOES IT! I take the filter out of the oil bath base and its just fine. Is it the filter? Have you ever heard of a brand new air filter doing this???? If you flipped the lid, should it not need a shorter stud? I could see running out of thread, but not sure how it would be too short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 what are the physical dimensions on your filter..folks on here have had to stack some filters to keep from fouling plugs...could very well be insufficient size and thus restriciting air flow...paper construction would be the same with a larger filter so filter error other than size is not likely... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old woolie Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 I guess I'll keep the oil bath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleman Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 When running on my B&B changed to a paper filter.. Had to remove the side skirt from the top lid and used a purolator Prenium Plus(what ever that means) A14380 filter. Ran fine without any air restriction. Good luck AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Coatney Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 it acts like I've got the choke pulled all the way out Is your choke butterfly fully open when the filter is installed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 I also run some of the skirt on both my conversions..you will not notice by looking that it has been converted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kustom52Mopar Posted September 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 OK sorry I haven't commented sooner, been way too busy. Anyhow I've thought about trying another brand, I've got a CarQuest on it now. Don, ya the butterfly should be working fine. I'll fiddle with it more when I get some time and let ya know when I figure more out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Elder Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Tim, are you talking about air cleaners, or women....I usually notice a skirt! PS Of course with Esmey I try to use my periphial vision! Doesn't always work....OUCH! FRANKIE47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric wissing Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Car runs fine. However' date=' my engine is completely rebuilt and the carb. has been rebuilt at the same time. So...........your problem may be due to an actual carb. problem and not the filter. I can't see where drilling holes in the paper filter would be a good thing. After all, if you do that dirt can go right through it..[/quote'] I never suggested that anyone drill through the filter. Now that would be silly. I drilled through the metal. I had already ruined it as an oil bath air cleaner. The car runs great now. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old woolie Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Tim, are you talking about air cleaners, or women....I usually notice a skirt!PS Of course with Esmey I try to use my periphial vision! Doesn't always work....OUCH! FRANKIE47 That's what sunglasses are for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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