1946 Door Locks

[dirty dan]

I did a search and found where someone said that a '47 was supposed to lock from the inside by pushing the inside door handle in the opposite direction. My '46 doesn't do this. Is it supposed to?

Also, I went to pull my door key cylinders out to have keys made, and discovered that on both sides, there is nothing connected to the cylinders. I can't see where something is supposed to hook on/connect to the cylinder (only one is out) and I can't see where anything looks broken off. I do see the small square in the latch that locks the door. It works just swell with a screwdriver. Does anyone have a parts breakdown for this that they can post? I'm sure whatever the most expensive fix is, is what this car will require.

The drivers door lock set screw is frozen and has a stripped head. I guess I'll spend tomorrow evening drilling it out.

Can anyone tell me if the '49 key cylinders will work on the '46?

I'm losing heart and getting tired of throwing money after money. I'm sure things will be better when it starts going back together. Right now I wish I had opted for an early 60's Chevy truck!

[Plymouthy Adams]

both of my 41 Dodges locked in this manner..and those are a tad older...you may have something jamming up the mechanism...

also does my 47 and 48 Plymouth..the 54 Plymouth and the 47 Dodge

[dirty dan]

both of my 41 Dodges locked in this manner..and those are a tad older...you may have something jamming up the mechanism...

also does my 47 and 48 Plymouth..the 54 Plymouth and the 47 Dodge

I had the entire latch out on the right door and I don't see anything jamming. What I suspect is something(s) is/are missing. My biggest problem is I can't find a parts breakdown for it.

Will the 49 cylinders fit on the 46?

[Norm's Coupe]

Dan,

49 First Series locks will fit without a problem. The whole car is the same as the P15. Not sure about 49 second series.

[dirty dan]

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49 First Series locks will fit without a problem. The whole car is the same as the P15. Not sure about 49 second series.[/quote']

How can I tell the difference?

[Norm's Coupe]

How can I tell the difference?

I don't think the second series locks had a cover over the key hole.

[Plymouthy Adams]

the second series don't look like a P15...hs a bubble butt and top fender mounted rear lights...do a search on yahoo images...

[BobT-47P15]

Exploded view from the 46-48 P15 parts manual.

The lock cylinder should have a square shaft attached per the photo.

That's what activates the locking process.

[Young Ed]

second series 49 locks use a different attachment. They went from a set screw to a U shaped clip deal.

[BobT-47P15]

Those set screws sure like to rust up......a pain to drill out. As usual, my

drilling ran off to the side thru the housing of the screw. The clip is a lot

better thing. Wonder if a P15 lock would stay in with a clip.

[dirty dan]

Those set screws sure like to rust up......a pain to drill out. As usual, my

drilling ran off to the side thru the housing of the screw. The clip is a lot

better thing. Wonder if a P15 lock would stay in with a clip.

Mine, on the drivers side at least, is going to stay in some other way. I've spent over an hour drilling and I'm not even close yet. Good Lord that screw is dense and hard. I'm about 15 minutes away from pulling out the old Dremel Grinder on this puppy.

[martybose]

I finally gave up and took a chisel to free up one of the door locks. Then I made up a steel ring with a setscrew to retain the new one.

Marty

[Plymouthy Adams]

sometimes you just got to back up and re-invent the wheel....its so easy...a caveman could do it...lol

[later]

This is what a first series 49 Chrysler door lock looks like, same as the 48. I think they started this type of cover in 47. They had a flatter and rounder cover in 46. Hope this helps, they pop up on eBay once in a while.

[Normspeed]

We tried drilling those screws out on 47 heaven's doors. They just kept turning with the bit. Plus I was sooo scared of running my drill so close to that nice new paint. I gave up, and Darin found a shop that took care of it. My 53 has the sliding u-clip retainer, so much better and easier.

Dirty Dan, I think you have two separate problems there, one being the missing square rod that hooks the key lock to the lock mechanism. Take off your interior door panels and look in the bottom of the door assembly for them. The inside lock problem is a missing or disconnected flat linkage bar, take off the door panel and it should be real obvious, compare with BobT's picture.

[BobT-47P15]

Wellll.....when I first took my locks out I had no replacements.

I do now, but have not tried to put them in. I simply put a couple

chrome caps or plugs into the lock holes on the door. Hey, it's a

ragtop.....lock it up, they want in, they cut the top....so no locks.

[dirty dan]

We tried drilling those screws out on 47 heaven's doors. They just kept turning with the bit. Plus I was sooo scared of running my drill so close to that nice new paint. I gave up, and Darin found a shop that took care of it. My 53 has the sliding u-clip retainer, so much better and easier.

Dirty Dan, I think you have two separate problems there, one being the missing square rod that hooks the key lock to the lock mechanism. Take off your interior door panels and look in the bottom of the door assembly for them. The inside lock problem is a missing or disconnected flat linkage bar, take off the door panel and it should be real obvious, compare with BobT's picture.

The square rods are missing on both sides.

Nothing in the bottom of the doors. I suspect someone broke these a long time ago.

Regarding the flat bar from the inside door handle, and locking via that door handle...I've had one latch out already and don't see where anything is obviously missing. I guess I'll pull it back out and give it a good cleaning and oiling and see what I've missed.