Removed transmission today on 48 DeSoto. How to install?

[MarcDeSoto]

I you already know, I am trying to free a stuck clutch on my 48 Desoto with M-5 transmission.  I was not able to drop the clutch pan today because of one stud, so I pulled the trans.  I used a floor jack to hold the trans.  I remember that you should use long studs to hold the trans as you slide it out and when you put it back.  So I went to HD to buy some studs.  I bought two long carriage bolts instead with the plan to cut the heads off.  Is it a good idea to use studs as guides when you install the trans?  Next job is to get under the bell housing and try to break through the clutch pressure plate and the FD driving plate with a spatula to break the connection.  For those who will reply to my question with READ THE MANUAL, about all it say is "remove transmission".  And that is the extent of the detail.  Even the M.T.S.C. filmstrips don't mention how to remove the transmission, or the clutch, or anything.  One of the pics below shows the gear shift rod.  I am trying to remove it so I can put in a new floor pad to hold the steering wheel and gear shift shafts.  Does anyone know how to remove the grear shift rod?  In the last pic, I show the long bolt I plan to use to replace the trans.  

[Bryan]

Looks like you have a longer guide stud than I could find.   I pulled my transmission out without one, just moved the jack backwards at same level and slid it back. Had to wiggle it somewhat.  Will use the studs to guide it in probably late this summer. Saw other people post that best to use studs to guide in. Hope it doesn't take that long for the engine overhaul. Hear you on the manual..in some things not much detail. I left my rod on the column since I'm just trying to pull the engine, don't know.

[Doug&Deb]

The service manual was written for mechanics who worked on these cars every day not crazy people like us 70 years later. They assume a certain amount of knowledge. That’s why this forum is essential. Be very careful with the fluid coupling. The last thing you need is to crack the carbon seal.

[Bryan]

1 hour ago, Doug&Deb said:

The service manual was written for mechanics who worked on these cars every day not crazy people like us 70 years later. They assume a certain amount of knowledge. That’s why this forum is essential. Be very careful with the fluid coupling. The last thing you need is to crack the carbon seal.

Yeah, somewhere seen a FD seal kit for $525...

[MarcDeSoto]

I happen to own a bunch of Miller tools that I got in the 80s including a huge Fluid Drive rebuilding kit with all the special tools!  I have a junk FD from a 48 Dodge that I might fool around with to learn how to do it.  One thing I've learned is when you take your car apart, besides taking lots of pics, you better save and catalog all the little parts that go on the linkages.  They don't sell those little cotter pin bolts and other special parts anywhere.  

[Doug&Deb]

If you figure out how to rebuild fluid couplings you may have a good side job lol.

[Sam Buchanan]

18 hours ago, MarcDeSoto said:

I you already know, I am trying to free a stuck clutch on my 48 Desoto with M-5 transmission.  I was not able to drop the clutch pan today because of one stud, so I pulled the trans.  I used a floor jack to hold the trans.  I remember that you should use long studs to hold the trans as you slide it out and when you put it back.  So I went to HD to buy some studs.  I bought two long carriage bolts instead with the plan to cut the heads off.  Is it a good idea to use studs as guides when you install the trans?  Next job is to get under the bell housing and try to break through the clutch pressure plate and the FD driving plate with a spatula to break the connection.  For those who will reply to my question with READ THE MANUAL, about all it say is "remove transmission".  And that is the extent of the detail.  Even the M.T.S.C. filmstrips don't mention how to remove the transmission, or the clutch, or anything.  One of the pics below shows the gear shift rod.  I am trying to remove it so I can put in a new floor pad to hold the steering wheel and gear shift shafts.  Does anyone know how to remove the grear shift rod?  In the last pic, I show the long bolt I plan to use to replace the trans.  

 

 

Here the guide pins I made from bolts, but I doubt they would be absolutely necessary if you can stand over the transmission as you insert the input shaft. You have far better access than those of us who were working inside/under the car. 

 

[Bryan]

1 hour ago, Sam Buchanan said:

 

 

Here the guide pins I made from bolts, but I doubt they would be absolutely necessary if you can stand over the transmission as you insert the input shaft. You have far better access than those of us who were working inside/under the car. 

 

 

Uh, what are these places that I have circled?  It's the same location as the holes in my transmission that are leaking? Yours look like pins with rough ends that have been broke off.  Do you think these had built in guide pins that got broke off by most people?  Mine have open holes in the transmission facing a blank gasket. Doesn't make sense.

[Bryan]

Sorry to hijack your thread, but...

[Sam Buchanan]

1 hour ago, Bryan said:

Uh, what are these places that I have circled?  It's the same location as the holes in my transmission that are leaking? Yours look like pins with rough ends that have been broke off.  Do you think these had built in guide pins that got broke off by most people?  Mine have open holes in the transmission facing a blank gasket. Doesn't make sense.

 

Naw....nothing that dramatic. Those are just holes in the gasket, this gasket appears to be for more than one version of transmission. You can see where it has more gasket material at the bottom than necessary, I just trimmed it to fit. Both sides of the gasket were skimmed with Permatex #2 so the holes are a non-issue. If you want to see the entire thread where I chased tranny leaks, here 'tis.

 

https://p15-d24.com/topic/50800-chasing-transmission-leak-48-p15/?tab=comments#comment-539006

[MarcDeSoto]

Bryan, You can hijack my thread anytime because I always learn something from your posts.  I went down to take some pics of my bellhousing just to see if it had those mysterious holes.  Mine doesn't have them, but it has an M-5 semi auto trans.