Transmission ID

[billrigsby]

 

Trying to figure out just what I got, both are identical, the orange one (don't ask, not sure why it got painted orange!)

was original in the truck, the rusty one was attached to the D34 230ci Dodge Car Dodge 6 Custom 1950 engine with

a PTO attached, came out of a ??? truck. Both are 1948/49 era. They do have different parking brake setups.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I need to pull the tops, inspect and decide which to use, also have a fluid drive,

but I think the conversion would be such a pain and unsure about it right now.

 

 

 

 

Edited October 29, 2021 by billrigsby

[billrigsby]

 

I do not see much difference inside, both look to be serviceable,

one would be easier to paint since it was cleaned and painted already.

 

I also do not see any sign of syncros-at least not what i am used to seeing.

 

 

ORANGE

 

 

 

 

RUSTY

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Dodgeb4ya]

I would want to know if the roller and needle bearings have rust pitting.

Some of your gear teeth are some what pitted from sitting.

 

[billrigsby]

 

Yeah the Rusted one looked worse on the inside as far as stuff on the gears.

I'll probably open up the Orange one, looks simple enough.

 

So am I guessing it's a three-speed non Synchro,

at least I can add a PTO if I want to.

 

 

[Dodgeb4ya]

Those two transmissions are non syncro four speeds.

[billrigsby]

Yes four Speed, duh I do know how to drive a stick shift and I ran it through the gears I'm not sure why I said three.

 

Wish they were Synchro though going to tear some stuff up I bet, this is going to be a learning experience.

 

Glad I got 5 acres to practice on so I don't embarrass myself in public LOL.

 

I can 'kind of do it' in my 90 F250 but that trany's got so much slop it's pathetic.

[wallytoo]

53 minutes ago, billrigsby said:

Yes four Speed, duh I do know how to drive a stick shift and I ran it through the gears I'm not sure why I said three.

 

Wish they were Synchro though going to tear some stuff up I bet, this is going to be a learning experience.

 

Glad I got 5 acres to practice on so I don't embarrass myself in public LOL.

 

I can 'kind of do it' in my 90 F250 but that trany's got so much slop it's pathetic.

 

the good news is it’s far easier to go up through the gears than down.  you can get used to the motions working your way up, then just come to a stop and do it again.  to go up, i let off the gas and press the clutch, move the stick to neutral and release the clutch and then quickly push the clutch pedal back down, and then glide the stick into the next higher gear.  no throttle applied during the procedure (you will need to use the throttle when downshifting).

 

i virtually never downshift into second while moving, and never into first.  going into third from forth isn’t too hard to get used to.  on the other hand, i’ve had experience with non-synchro transmissions since 1985, so i’ve had some practice.

Edited October 30, 2021 by wallytoo

[Dodgeb4ya]

Those 4 speed spur gear transmissions are tough and trouble free. Also are actually easy to shift with a little practice.

I love the sound of them.

When 16 (1968) I learned to drive my brothers 50 DT panel with that same spur gear trans.

He still has it and drove it last month.

[Veemoney]

Bill

I have the same transmission (case C-18661) in my 47 WC. I'm still clanking into gear on occasion with mine and does have the big truck whine to go with it. 1st gear is double super low stump puller that I never used. Just changed out the rear center chunk 4.10 for a 3.54 gear. Prior to the change out I rarely used 2nd gear either. I don't think you can hurt that trans, just change oil in mine and it came out as clean as it went in. 

 

Also picked up one of your parts disks, Thanks 

[Veemoney]

On 10/29/2021 at 1:23 PM, billrigsby said:

not sure why it got painted orange!)

was original in the truck,

Orange may be the NP manufacturers color if I had to guess since your rusty one is orange inside and mine is the same orange color as well.