harmony Posted August 6, 2021 Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 Last winter I had starting issues with my 48 Chrysler Windsor, 251 ci, fluid drive. The wires on the carb and trans relay were in pretty bad shape, so at the time I just bought a spool of black wire and replaced them all and then labeled them so I would remember where they went. Now I'd like to rewire with the original cloth sheathed style. RI Wire is who I'll probably get the wires and ends from, but I can't remember the proper gauge. If I remember correctly, single tracer wire is 16 gauge and double wire tracer is 14 gauge, right? I thought for sure that I took pictures before I trashed the wires but I can't seem to find them on my phone, so I can't remember if they were single or double tracer wires. I think I have this correct for the trans relay. TH - Yellow SOL - Red BAT - Green PRI - Black INT - Blue Am I right? I'm also looking to buy the proper bullet end connector that plugs into the anti-stall on the carb. RIW has two options, being .160 male bullet or .180 male bullet. From their pictures, it looks like it should maybe be the .180, but I seem to think the one on my carb looked longer for some reason. It says they are for 12-16 gauge. So maybe that tells me the wire to the Anti-stall is 16 gauge. I think they were all the same gauge so I'm thinking I should get all the colours in 16 gauge, single tracer. But I just wanted to check here first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug&Deb Posted August 6, 2021 Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 I ordered the trans harness from YNZ Wiring. I believe it was around $150.00. It came with excellent instructions and was concours correct, not that it mattered to me lol. Just an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmony Posted August 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Doug&Deb said: I ordered the trans harness from YNZ Wiring. I believe it was around $150.00. It came with excellent instructions and was concours correct, not that it mattered to me lol. Just an option. Since I only need a couple feet of each wire, and RIW sells it by the foot I think that's by best option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrysler1941 Posted August 6, 2021 Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, harmony said: Since I only need a couple feet of each wire, and RIW sells it by the foot I think that's by best option. Maybe this will help Electrical Connectors.pdf Edited August 6, 2021 by chrysler1941 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmony Posted August 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, chrysler1941 said: Maybe this will help Electrical Connectors.pdf 311.58 kB · 0 downloads it looks like 665151 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgeb4ya Posted August 7, 2021 Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 Use the .160" bullets .....180"'s are too large. All wires are 16ga. as you probably know. ... There are two different wires harness patterns depending on vehicle serial #s. Depends on trans relay location. If you make your own does not matter. I factory crimp and solder OE terminal ends as done by factory doing these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmony Posted August 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, Dodgeb4ya said: Use the .160" bullets .....180"'s are too large. All wires are 16ga. as you probably know. ... There are two different wires harness patterns depending on vehicle serial #s. Depends on trans relay location. If you make your own does not matter. I factory crimp and solder OE terminal ends as done by factory doing these. Was there a reason why Chrysler changed the harness pattern? My trans relay is on the driver inner fender just behind the regulator. Where else was it put in 48? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgeb4ya Posted August 7, 2021 Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 The change is in the way the harness is made...slight hidden junction wire change and if the the trans harness has a braided ground wrapped around said harness. Either way will not cause problems. The relays are mounted slightly different on some cars meaning slightly longer or shorter wires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmony Posted August 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 10 hours ago, Dodgeb4ya said: The change is in the way the harness is made...slight hidden junction wire change and if the the trans harness has a braided ground wrapped around said harness. Either way will not cause problems. The relays are mounted slightly different on some cars meaning slightly longer or shorter wires. Good to know. I had that braided ground wire that you mentioned slid over the wire on my car. What was the point of that? I'm assuming the factory must have had a machine that inserted the wire through the centre of that braided ground wire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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