grubby65 Posted May 25, 2021 Report Posted May 25, 2021 I'm re-installing the head on my 1933 DeSoto and I'm trying to figure out what to torque the fasteners to. The '33's have studs not bolts, I have the instruction manual for the car but it has no torque specs. I found this on the internet, but I'm not sure if I agree with it. Course thread 7/16" X 14 TPI cap screws are 65 to 70 lbs as mentioned above.... Studs with 7/16" X 20 TPIi fine thread are 55lbs. Cylinder head clamping force ends up the same for both styles. Honestly I didn't realize thread pitch affects clamping pressure at the same torque, but the more I think about it, maybe it is correct. Any thoughts? Quote
greg g Posted May 25, 2021 Report Posted May 25, 2021 As important as the torque is the tightening sequence and procedure. There is a pattern to follow, it starts with the middle center and radiates out in a star pattern. And you do three turns around increasing the torque setting each time. 30 50 70 is what I used with head bolts. The sequence goes as below till all 21 are done 17 11. 5. 2. 8. 14. 20 16. 10. 4. 1. 7. 13. 19 18, 12. 6 3. 9. 15. 21 Then retorque to final lbft`s after cooling a bit fromfull running temp heat cycle in the same sequence. Quote
kencombs Posted May 26, 2021 Report Posted May 26, 2021 23 hours ago, grubby65 said: I'm re-installing the head on my 1933 DeSoto and I'm trying to figure out what to torque the fasteners to. The '33's have studs not bolts, I have the instruction manual for the car but it has no torque specs. I found this on the internet, but I'm not sure if I agree with it. Course thread 7/16" X 14 TPI cap screws are 65 to 70 lbs as mentioned above.... Studs with 7/16" X 20 TPIi fine thread are 55lbs. Cylinder head clamping force ends up the same for both styles. Honestly I didn't realize thread pitch affects clamping pressure at the same torque, but the more I think about it, maybe it is correct. Any thoughts? Think of thread pitch as an inclined ramp, which it is, just wrapped around in a circle. The 'flatter' the ramp, the less force required to move a weight up. Or the more force can be developed with same input torque. 3 Quote
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