First P15 Posted May 17, 2019 Report Posted May 17, 2019 On 5/13/2019 at 4:30 AM, Andydodge said: When I had the 41 Plymouth Coupe I put 2" blocks on the rear springs and cut one coil from the front..........I then installed 15x6 and 15x 7 Wheel Vintique Chrome smoothies with the standard offset and 195/75x 15 and 235/75x15 Coker Classic Whitewall radials front & rear.......there was no clearance issues inner or outer, front or rear and the radials improved the general ride, steering and driveability ..............depending on the actual clearance then what I ran may or may not fit............lol...........and I have 14x6 and 15x10 wheels on the 1940 Dodge as shown, tho the rear fenders have 2" welded into them for clearance.......lol.........anyway Welcome Aboard........where are you?........I'm in Grafton, have had the Dodge since 1971, built it as a hotrod in 1973 and am available on 02 66435260 or scaleautomobilia@hotkey.net.au if you need info etc............regards, Andy Douglas Expand I really like your coupe Andy.... have seen this picture of it in front of the garage online and saved it for a color reference. I’m starting a restoration of a 48 Plymouth club coupe and intend to make it a similar color. Anyway, very nice ride Quote
Andydodge Posted May 17, 2019 Report Posted May 17, 2019 Like a dope I sold the coupe........the colour we think was a mid 90's Oz Ford or maybe Japanese car colour, there are a few different tho' similar hues and they really pop with some chrome and the whitewalls.....I matched the paint reasonably well when I painted the sun visor and considering that you couldn't get directly above the car to compare the colours I was happy enough.....I lowered it enough to what I think improved the appearance but not looking silly laying frame which I don't like..................in some light there was a pinkish hue to it............andyd 1 Quote
Craigdodge Posted May 19, 2019 Author Report Posted May 19, 2019 On 5/16/2019 at 10:08 AM, tub1 said: hello craig, dam nice car you have there mate I look forward to seeing a picture when you have made it yours take your time and enjoy that car for your self scott Expand Cheers Scotty will do. Quote
Craigdodge Posted May 19, 2019 Author Report Posted May 19, 2019 On 5/16/2019 at 10:08 AM, tub1 said: hello craig, dam nice car you have there mate I look forward to seeing a picture when you have made it yours take your time and enjoy that car for your self scott Expand Cheers Scotty I will for sure mate. Quote
Craigdodge Posted May 19, 2019 Author Report Posted May 19, 2019 On 5/16/2019 at 2:20 AM, Andydodge said: Craig.....I have the Gavin Farmer book, "Great Ideas In Motion" published 2010 which covers Oz mopar 1946-1981 as well as a few other publications including the 1946-53 Workshop manual and 1954 Supplement together with both the 1957 AP1 Chrysler Royal and 1960 AP3 Chrysler Royal workshop manuals and from going thru the lot this may or may not help.........lol.........the production figures for Dodge are as follows D49S 1954 1955 1956 /1 7 10 /2 1705 1318 833 /3 223 586 277 /4 91 941 654 Farmers book also mentioned that the D49 which was introduced in 1953 and continued up until the introduction of the 1957 Chrysler Royal had very few indentifiable styling changes, the main two appear to have been the deletion of the side trim or moldings thru the doors from 1955 and the adoption of chromed hooded headlight surrounds from 1956. As your car does have the moldings thru the doors it may have been a 1953 or 1954 built car however not sold new till 1955, but thats just a guess on my part............the other thing I mentioned regarding the engine choices and the confusion is borne out by the 1954 Chrysler Australia Workshop Manual Supplement which lists the 3 engines available as follows....... D49 1/2 230.2 engine( with engine numbers after 243,000.......which would be the 23" Dodge/Plymouth engine) D49 1/2 228.1 engine (with engine numbers suffixed "C"...........which would be the 25" DeSoto/Chrysler engine) D49 3/4 250.6 engine (with engine numbers prefixed "Kew"......which would be the 25" DeSoto/ Chrysler engine) I have not seen a 1955 or 1956 Australian Chrysler /Mopar/Dodge/DeSoto or Plymouth Workshop Manual, nor have I seen one listed but they/it may exist and have different info....did your car come with a workshop manual or owners manual? It appears also that over over the 4 years that this series was in production a couple of other changes appeared.........pedals went from being floor/chassis mounted to being pendant or firewall mounted, also changes to whether it had a mechanical clutch to a hydraulic clutch as well as the introduction of a Oz made gearbox with selectors on the Oz drivers side of the gearbox and possibily the introduction of the parking brake on the rear brake drums tho' that may have come in only on the 1957 Royal with the 3 speed manual gearbox................anyway I hope this helps.............or confuses...........lol.............andyd Expand On 5/16/2019 at 2:20 AM, Andydodge said: Craig.....I have the Gavin Farmer book, "Great Ideas In Motion" published 2010 which covers Oz mopar 1946-1981 as well as a few other publications including the 1946-53 Workshop manual and 1954 Supplement together with both the 1957 AP1 Chrysler Royal and 1960 AP3 Chrysler Royal workshop manuals and from going thru the lot this may or may not help.........lol.........the production figures for Dodge are as follows D49S 1954 1955 1956 /1 7 10 /2 1705 1318 833 /3 223 586 277 /4 91 941 654 Farmers book also mentioned that the D49 which was introduced in 1953 and continued up until the introduction of the 1957 Chrysler Royal had very few indentifiable styling changes, the main two appear to have been the deletion of the side trim or moldings thru the doors from 1955 and the adoption of chromed hooded headlight surrounds from 1956. As your car does have the moldings thru the doors it may have been a 1953 or 1954 built car however not sold new till 1955, but thats just a guess on my part............the other thing I mentioned regarding the engine choices and the confusion is borne out by the 1954 Chrysler Australia Workshop Manual Supplement which lists the 3 engines available as follows....... D49 1/2 230.2 engine( with engine numbers after 243,000.......which would be the 23" Dodge/Plymouth engine) D49 1/2 228.1 engine (with engine numbers suffixed "C"...........which would be the 25" DeSoto/Chrysler engine) D49 3/4 250.6 engine (with engine numbers prefixed "Kew"......which would be the 25" DeSoto/ Chrysler engine) I have not seen a 1955 or 1956 Australian Chrysler /Mopar/Dodge/DeSoto or Plymouth Workshop Manual, nor have I seen one listed but they/it may exist and have different info....did your car come with a workshop manual or owners manual? It appears also that over over the 4 years that this series was in production a couple of other changes appeared.........pedals went from being floor/chassis mounted to being pendant or firewall mounted, also changes to whether it had a mechanical clutch to a hydraulic clutch as well as the introduction of a Oz made gearbox with selectors on the Oz drivers side of the gearbox and possibily the introduction of the parking brake on the rear brake drums tho' that may have come in only on the 1957 Royal with the 3 speed manual gearbox................anyway I hope this helps.............or confuses...........lol.............andyd Expand From the tag it D49S-4-516 so 91 made if knocked out in 54 if I am reading right. Quote
Andydodge Posted May 19, 2019 Report Posted May 19, 2019 Craig..........agreed.......I am no expert but your car would appear to be one of 91 built going by the side moldings as a 53 or 54 model with the Powerflite and the "516" may indicate the body number.............also does your car have a mechanical or hydraulic clutch and floor or firewall pedals............also the engine number info.... does any of what I posted apply?..........I'm going on whats in the GF book and I have found a few odd statements in their so am curious whether what is stated actually holds up in real life............lol............andyd Quote
Craigdodge Posted May 20, 2019 Author Report Posted May 20, 2019 On 5/19/2019 at 10:53 PM, Andydodge said: Craig..........agreed.......I am no expert but your car would appear to be one of 91 built going by the side moldings as a 53 or 54 model with the Powerflite and the "516" may indicate the body number.............also does your car have a mechanical or hydraulic clutch and floor or firewall pedals............also the engine number info.... does any of what I posted apply?..........I'm going on whats in the GF book and I have found a few odd statements in their so am curious whether what is stated actually holds up in real life............lol............andyd Expand Floor pedals and engine # TE02816 Quote
Andydodge Posted May 20, 2019 Report Posted May 20, 2019 Craig, your cars engine number doesn't correlate to what GF states and the details that GF has quoted in his book. The Licence Data in the 1954 Oz Workshop Manual Supplement is exactly the same as what GF has in his book in relation to the engine number suffix/prefix details, maybe he has used the Workshop Manual Supplement for the source of his info, the copy I have is dated 1954 by Scientific Publications who were the publishers of most makes of shop manuals on behalf of the manufacturers up until at least the 1970's if not later.........maybe your cars engine has been replaced? .........andyd Quote
Craigdodge Posted May 20, 2019 Author Report Posted May 20, 2019 On 5/20/2019 at 5:11 AM, Andydodge said: Craig, your cars engine number doesn't correlate to what GF states and the details that GF has quoted in his book. The Licence Data in the 1954 Oz Workshop Manual Supplement is exactly the same as what GF has in his book in relation to the engine number suffix/prefix details, maybe he has used the Workshop Manual Supplement for the source of his info, the copy I have is dated 1954 by Scientific Publications who were the publishers of most makes of shop manuals on behalf of the manufacturers up until at least the 1970's if not later.........maybe your cars engine has been replaced? .........andyd Expand No idea mate but will investigate further. Quote
tub1 Posted May 20, 2019 Report Posted May 20, 2019 that car is so straight through the sides what a job the body and paint bloke did 1 Quote
Andydodge Posted May 20, 2019 Report Posted May 20, 2019 Craig...........where in West Oz are you......we are visiting the two grandkids and son Mark and his partner and we are flying from Brisbane to Karatha via Perth on Wednesday this week, changing planes at Perth about midday, wiil be at Karatha till the 29th, leave Karatha, down to Perth for a 5hr layover then the flight back east about 4pm.....don't suppose you live next door to Perth Airport?..............lol..............andyd Quote
Craigdodge Posted May 21, 2019 Author Report Posted May 21, 2019 On 5/20/2019 at 9:45 AM, tub1 said: that car is so straight through the sides what a job the body and paint bloke did Expand Cheers mate the resto is 20 years old no rust very very straight as you say. Quote
Craigdodge Posted May 21, 2019 Author Report Posted May 21, 2019 On 5/20/2019 at 10:18 AM, Andydodge said: Craig...........where in West Oz are you......we are visiting the two grandkids and son Mark and his partner and we are flying from Brisbane to Karatha via Perth on Wednesday this week, changing planes at Perth about midday, wiil be at Karatha till the 29th, leave Karatha, down to Perth for a 5hr layover then the flight back east about 4pm.....don't suppose you live next door to Perth Airport?..............lol..............andyd Expand nah mate 2 hrs south of Perth . Quote
Young Ed Posted May 22, 2019 Report Posted May 22, 2019 On 5/14/2019 at 11:36 PM, Craigdodge said: Cheers mate im on it. So whats the better engine of the 2? Expand That's a 25" block. Neither is really better but the 25 usually is bigger CI. Quote
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