Damcow88 Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 Hey all, New to the group here but I just picked up this 1941 dodge Kingsway and am looking for some more information on it. It runs and drives and has the original engine in it. I'm new to mopar vehicles but couldn't pass up the opportunity to have it. I've gone through the threads regarding brake drum removal but am looking for additional information on wiring diagrams and component names for under the hood. Appreciate any and all help. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpollo Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 You have a Canadian built car, twin to a Plymouth Road King. The engine is a 3 3/8 bore 218 which is 25 inches along the cylinder head. This is in comparison to the USA built engine which is 23 inches. It is a smaller car than the US model. You will find that the grille is smaller than the US model and the park and headlight are the same as Plymouth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian41D-19 Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 nice car ! this is built on the plymouth chassi isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggo Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 I have a shop manual for it. Ill post the wiring diagram later... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damcow88 Posted March 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 I just went through the absolute pain of removing the rear brake drums and assemblies this weekend. The previous owner opted for welding one of the rims to the hub and drum. Thank God I'm a machinist and have access to a lathe to knock the excess weld off the original hub. Are there any rear axle parts from these (brakes, drums, hub) that are the same as other years and models? How long was a tapered/keyed axle used? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casper50 Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 Bubba at his finest! Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpollo Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 drums would be the same 37 to 41....maybe 42 depends on the seal ( National 5797 ) axles 37 t0 48 all DPCD 6 cyl shoes 35 to 42 and light truck to 41 light truck front only to 54 (ten inch) WC 17789 is a truck cylinder, not stepped which works well for me. Tapered axles to 63. not all the same taper though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andydodge Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 Have never heard of someone welding the rim to the hub....a Jackass?............I think you are being too generous in your description of them............if you are going to perservere with the original rear axle and tapered hub etc then you need the biggest axle puller you can find.....this is one that I bought 45 yrs ago when I 1st got my 1940 Dodge and it hasn't met a rear hub/brake drum it didn't like..........nice car BTW........whats the white stuff on the ground ?........we don't see that here in Oz.........lol.......Welcome aboard the best Mopar forum........Andy Douglas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damcow88 Posted March 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 I just picked up a 31 spline 8.8 from a 96 explorer, disc brakes and same bolt pattern from the local wreckers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggo Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 Hey, can you do me a favour on that 8.8? I have the same back end on my D20, albeit with drums not discs, but can you check the width? Mine was up on the ramp yesterday and this morning, and it looks like the back axle has shifted sideways slightly. I know the rear leaf springs are shot and most of the support comes from the optional 'heavy duty' coilovers, but it looks like one spring has slid sideways. On the front end, someone also made homemade shock mounts, but managed to make one taller than the other, and whoever put the SBC and TH350 in obviously thought bellhousings were for wimps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damcow88 Posted March 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) From my research the axles with drums are just a little bit shorter sitting somewhere around 59". The stock D20 rear end is 60" and the 8.8 with discs is 59.81" Edited March 13, 2018 by Damcow88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggo Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 Ok, thanks for that. So maybe the spring mounts are slightly further apart on the Ford axle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damcow88 Posted March 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 Yeah you need to move the spring perches on the axle. D20 axle perches are set at 47" center to center. So on the 8.8 they need to be relocated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggo Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 Wiring diagram as promised... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damcow88 Posted March 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 Thanks for that diagram! How many pages is that manual? Got a picture of what it's called so I can look online for one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggo Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) Ooof! 318 pages, it's the official Shop Manual. Ask me nicely, and I'm happy to scan and email/post specific pages, but to scan the whole thing would take a month of Sundays... This might help, too: http://www.pwchryslerclub.org/PlymouthManual_OCR.pdf Edited March 14, 2018 by Wiggo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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