Branded Posted January 15, 2019 Report Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, DJ194950 said: Just my opinion but I would make every effort to find the correct length of throw out bearing sleeve before install. At lot of work to just try. I think there is a good chance that you will Not have enough adjustment to make the new shorter one work! DJ I agree, I highly doubt you have enough reach with the short throw out bearing to release the clutch.. Quote
tom'sB2B Posted January 15, 2019 Author Report Posted January 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, Branded said: I agree, I highly doubt you have enough reach with the short throw out bearing to release the clutch.. Yes. On consideration, I think you guys are right. I will try to find the correct sizes throw out bearing Quote
Branded Posted January 15, 2019 Report Posted January 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, tom'sB2B said: Yes. On consideration, I think you guys are right. I will try to find the correct sizes throw out bearing Sent you a Private Message Quote
tom'sB2B Posted January 19, 2019 Author Report Posted January 19, 2019 Throw-outb bearing #2 arrived in the mail today. It appears to be NOS (made in the USA). Matches the original. I will attempt the switcheroo this weekend. 2 1 Quote
tom'sB2B Posted January 20, 2019 Author Report Posted January 20, 2019 Put in the new throw-out bearing in this evening. Took me 3 hours start to finish. I’m getting pretty good at bench pressing that transmission back into place ? I will adjust the linkage tomorrow if the weather isn’t too crappy. 2 Quote
Hemibear426 Posted January 23, 2019 Report Posted January 23, 2019 Tom's B2B, Concerning the crankshaft sprocket oiler, does it just fit loosely in the oil supply hole? Also, what does the outlet hole look like? Mine is pinched shut . See pictures. Any guidance is appreciated. Quote
Dartgame Posted January 23, 2019 Report Posted January 23, 2019 Well, the tip has obviously been mushed. Take a look a the center hole and see if you can match up a drill to open it. It would be better to go smaller than larger. But what the drill size is - I don’t know. As to the fitment in the block, I’d try to bell the end so you get a nice snug fit. I would also examine the oiler position relative to the timing chain. Maybe it hits it and that’s how it was damaged. Quote
Hemibear426 Posted January 23, 2019 Report Posted January 23, 2019 Thank you Dartgame. Great advice and guidance! Will do. Quote
tom'sB2B Posted January 24, 2019 Author Report Posted January 24, 2019 I believe Dartgame is right. Your tip looks damaged. I don’t have a picture of the tip, but here is a picture of how mine sits. Maybe someone can chime in with the proper hole diameter. Quote
brooklynbeer Posted January 24, 2019 Report Posted January 24, 2019 On 11/9/2018 at 10:48 PM, Don Coatney said: I found a NOS fork on eBay several years ago. You will also need these two springs. Do these two springs replace the factory clutch release bearing sleeve springs/ Referencing Henery M Rowell book dodge 1937-46, page 17, part 17 Quote
tom'sB2B Posted January 24, 2019 Author Report Posted January 24, 2019 Maybe DC can better confirm your question. But, yes those springs look like they are the proper springs used to mount the throw out sleeve to the clutch fork. Quote
brooklynbeer Posted January 24, 2019 Report Posted January 24, 2019 My release bearing sleeve grenaded in the same manner with the trans in the car and driving so don't feel bad. bernbaums also sent me the short sleeve last week and I returned it. Found an NOS one on ebay. Enjoying watching your car come together. Quote
thebeebe5 Posted January 24, 2019 Report Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, Hemibear426 said: Tom's B2B, Concerning the crankshaft sprocket oiler, does it just fit loosely in the oil supply hole? Also, what does the outlet hole look like? Mine is pinched shut . See pictures. Any guidance is appreciated. This is the best I have.... Didn’t ever thunk to measure the hole while the engine was apart... But it looks roughly 1/2 the diamater of the tube. Edited January 24, 2019 by thebeebe5 1 Quote
Hemibear426 Posted January 24, 2019 Report Posted January 24, 2019 Thats a great picture! Thanks a bunch! Mine obviously got caught up in the gear or chain some how. Is it orientated such that the oil stream would hit the center of the crank sprocket? Quote
Matt Wilson Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) Regarding the hole diameter for the timing chain/sprocket oil nozzle, I recently measured mine on two different engines. One is an oiler off a 230 engine that I believe is from the late 40's or early 50's, and the other is off a 251 from the early 60's (the original Power Wagons were still coming off the line with flatheads of the 251 variety through the late 60's). The 230 oil nozzle hole diameter is about 0.042", while the 251 oiler was about 0.056". I determined this by inserting drill bits into the holes. It should be noted that George Asche once told me to open up the holes in these oilers, as the chain and sprockets need more oil than the factory hole size will provide. He couldn't recall exactly what diameter he likes to use, but he thought it was 1/16", which is 0.0625". I went ahead and opened up the 251 nozzle by the few extra thousandths required to get to 1/16". I don't know if the 230 nozzles are all smaller than the 251 nozzles, or if the early engines of all displacements had nozzles with smaller hole diameters than the later engines. Many of the smaller (23") engines can use the same chain and sprockets as the 25" engines, and I believe that's the case with my 230 and 251, so I don't think the diameter difference is because of any difference in the type or size of timing chain/sprocket. Bottom line is that you might consider opening up your damaged nozzle hole to a 1/16" diameter. Edited January 25, 2019 by Matt Wilson Quote
Hemibear426 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 Mr. Wilson, Thank you so much! Will use your recommended 1/16" hole diameter. Do I aim the oil stream at the center of the crank sprocket? Mike Quote
thebeebe5 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 10 hours ago, Hemibear426 said: Thats a great picture! Thanks a bunch! Mine obviously got caught up in the gear or chain some how. Is it orientated such that the oil stream would hit the center of the crank sprocket? Looks like yes. 1 Quote
Matt Wilson Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Hemibear426 said: Mr. Wilson, Thank you so much! Will use your recommended 1/16" hole diameter. Do I aim the oil stream at the center of the crank sprocket? Mike You're quite welcome. I don't have either of my engines assembled right now, so I can't tell for sure how the nozzle is aimed, but it looks like it squirts the oil along a line that is tangent to the crankshaft sprocket outer circle. It almost looks like it would actually hit the chain, just above where the chain engages the sprocket, but it's hard to tell for sure. It looks like it squirts a little bit in the forward direction too, so that it would hit the chain (or sprocket) at about the middle of the thickness of the chain (or sprocket). It looks very much like the picture posted by thebeebe5 a couple of hours ago. Quote
Hemibear426 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 Got it. Thanks a bunch again. Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted January 26, 2019 Report Posted January 26, 2019 I measured two Oiler tubes and they come out at basically .040" to 042" Tube shown is slightly bent... not aimed correct as OE. 1 Quote
Hemibear426 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Posted January 26, 2019 Got it. Thanks a bunch again. Quote
Hemibear426 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Posted January 26, 2019 Dodgeb4ya, Thank you. This forum is great! I really appreciate you folks. 1 Quote
Hemibear426 Posted February 13, 2019 Report Posted February 13, 2019 My gasket set contains a large felt gasket/seal. Does anybody know where it goes on the engine? Quote
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