Oil filter for '39 Dodge D11

[hotrodv840]

Hello,

I recently picked up a '39 Dodge D11 business coupe.  I noticed the oil filter isn't a cartridge style and I want to do an oil change.  Where in the heck can I find this style filter?  Or am I out of luck and need to adapt a different style of cartridge filter or aftermarket remote filter head to accept a modern spin on filter?  I know this isn't a full filtered oiling system, but have other people done conversions to full flow?

 

Thanks,

-Chris

[knuckleharley]

Pretty much any auto parts store in the country sells those filters,but since you are new to old cars,your best bet is to hit a NAPA store. The typical counter clerk at places like Advance Auto know less than you about old cars,whereas the guys at NAPA stores tend to have a lot more experience and knowledge.

When you take the top off your "can" and pull the oil filter out,there should be a parts number stamped on it. Write down that number and the brand name and take it with you when you go shopping for a filter. If they don't have a listing for a 1939 Dodge,they will have a interchange manual that will tell them the parts numbers of filters from other manufacturers that will interchange.

BTW,I don't think that is the original oil cannister on that engine. It looks a lot like a aftermarket filter people use when they convert these old cars to full-flow systems.

BTW-2,that thing sure is clean and pretty under the hood! How about some photos of the car?

Edited October 19, 2017 by knuckleharley

[desoto1939]

You have the old Fram PB1/2 oil canister throw awy oil fileter. Wix's did make these but they are no longer being produced. You will find NOS on Ebay but the want approx $75 or more for each one.  Find yourself the old canister style that has the slip in or dropin filter.  The oil filter can be purcahsed from NAPA for around $12 each but the canister is more.  Look on ebay.

 

I switched over on my 39 desoto becasue of the cost of the old style metal oil filter.

 

Contact me:  Rich HArtung  cell 484-431-8157  Live near Philadelphia PA.

[Jerry Roberts]

I see in Roberts Motor Parts catalog that they have an " oil filter  , sealed can throw away type for $45 . I too recommend switching over to the canister type with a replaceable element . 

[knuckleharley]

1 hour ago, desoto1939 said:

You have the old Fram PB1/2 oil canister throw awy oil fileter. Wix's did make these but they are no longer being produced. You will find NOS on Ebay but the want approx $75 or more for each one.  Find yourself the old canister style that has the slip in or dropin filter.  The oil filter can be purcahsed from NAPA for around $12 each but the canister is more.  Look on ebay.

 

I switched over on my 39 desoto becasue of the cost of the old style metal oil filter.

 

Contact me:  Rich HArtung  cell 484-431-8157  Live near Philadelphia PA.

Clearly I was wrong about his canister filter. Thanks for for the correction,Rich.

[hotrodv840]

4 hours ago, knuckleharley said:

Pretty much any auto parts store in the country sells those filters,but since you are new to old cars,your best bet is to hit a NAPA store. The typical counter clerk at places like Advance Auto know less than you about old cars,whereas the guys at NAPA stores tend to have a lot more experience and knowledge.

When you take the top off your "can" and pull the oil filter out,there should be a parts number stamped on it. Write down that number and the brand name and take it with you when you go shopping for a filter. If they don't have a listing for a 1939 Dodge,they will have a interchange manual that will tell them the parts numbers of filters from other manufacturers that will interchange.

BTW,I don't think that is the original oil cannister on that engine. It looks a lot like a aftermarket filter people use when they convert these old cars to full-flow systems.

BTW-2,that thing sure is clean and pretty under the hood! How about some photos of the car?

Here are some pictures of the car as requested. Thanks for the info guys! Much appreciated. My Packard has a replaceable element cartridge style so I’m familiar with those. Was that style optional for a 1939 Dodge or do I just need to find something and make new lines to adapt to it. I suppose I could look and the line connections to see if it was converted to full flow? 

[DJ194950]

Bypass styles only in these years/motors as add-ons.

Full flow filtration came Way later on the larger/longer  length type flat 6 mopar motors, then not all had this.

So, your choice to add update bypass replaceable type filter or spend big $$ for replacements.

Last of choices is non stock replacement spin on filter made for by-pass systems or a major change at the oil pump and oil pickup and on and on to make this motor full flow filtration- it can be done.

Your choice,

best,

DJ

[desoto1939]

Oil filters on the 39 Dodge, desoto, Chrysler and lymouth were all an optional equipment. Most were installed by the dealer just like the heater, radio and foglights.

The dealer was not required to install the MoPAr canister oil filter system.  They could have gotten these from any outside jobber. Some of the aftermarket oil filters were made by AC, Fram, Purolator etc.  So if you can get anyone of these canister you can install it on your car without any issues when being judged.  I have a gray AC oil filter unit on my 39 desoto and use the NAPA 1010 gold drop in filter.  You might have to make new metal lines when you convert for the input and return lines.

I do have a MoPAr original canister style that is NOS with the cream body and the red top.

 

I also have a collection of factory option sales literature that was used onthe 39 MoPars. with some great pictures.

Rich Hartung