cybermca Posted December 1, 2016 Report Posted December 1, 2016 i did a test fit on my front clip around the newly installed 318 v8 before i paint it. it seems i will need to make some modifications to the inner fenders or remove a bunch of sheet metal to clear the exhaust manifolds. does anyone one have pictures of what they did on their swap? Quote
cybermca Posted December 1, 2016 Author Report Posted December 1, 2016 this is a 1950 plymouth suburban Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted December 1, 2016 Report Posted December 1, 2016 it is hard to just say do this and do that to a inner fender on an upgrade. One never knows your particular routing of wires, exhaust, if you did upgrade to steering, where is your battery..are you running an engine controller with the upgrade. where did you place the horns, do you have a overflow reservoir and where is that mounted. Did you install a windshield washer tank/pump assembly. Did you hang swing pedal and if so do you have a brake booster/master in the area. Are you upgrading to AC and if so where are your components like the receiver dryer and input to your evaporator. Things as simple a shock relocation and possible disc brake lines come into play. List goes on and on...to say it easiest...what do you need for clearance and where and make it happen is the best advice anyone can truly give you. No two or my inner fenders are anywhere close to the other as different combinations of components were used in each build. Quote
dale Posted December 1, 2016 Report Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) Surprise I had when the 350 was all installed was there wasnt any room for the battery. They do make a high power small battery which fit nicely where the old one went. Opposite side I had to cutout a small piece of the splash panel to clear the manifold. .. Guess the story is that you just have to make it fit..Of corse a 350 isnt a 318...A friend put an old Desoto hemi in his 48 Plymouth and just left out the fender panels. Seemed that the heads were under the fenders... LOL Edited December 1, 2016 by dale Added to it.. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted December 1, 2016 Report Posted December 1, 2016 if you can set the engine and then set the fenders..then you can massage the inner fenders....to not do so screams unfinished...but that is only my thoughts..others can think say do as they desire. Quote
wayfarer Posted December 1, 2016 Report Posted December 1, 2016 The photo shows the engine, with exhaust, sitting very nicely in the hole so what clearance issues are there? Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted December 1, 2016 Report Posted December 1, 2016 for one the manifolds appear to be dead on the inner fender...now sure how you like to handle heat and engine rise on torque and PS pump, alternator and any other peripherals is not yet in place...neither is the fan and while fan is not a inner fender related on the average..the front cross member is ALWAYS in play as is routing the upper and lower hoses....yes step one is to locate the power plant...the tweaks that come later to make it all look correct is not slam bang work... Quote
cybermca Posted December 2, 2016 Author Report Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) i started removing metal. it's very close to fitting now and i am going to start making some sheet metal inserts for the new shape. i will take a picture when i'm done Edited December 2, 2016 by cybermca Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted December 2, 2016 Report Posted December 2, 2016 now you are on the right track..custom cutting and fitting per your personal situation with the new engine install. It is often a few in and outs with the panel to test your cuts for clearance...then stated simply weld new metal to fill the voids. Nothing hard of mysterious about the process...just often a bit of time to finesse the panels. I only will state that to be sure to have your components installed and at max adjustment stretch, you do not need the belts to accomplish this as you setting max extensions....battery install on the front left fender shelf can be angled and inset into the fender for room and if you tuck the battery in with the corner without the post is buried, there is no fear of shorting and you can still service the terminals. I did similar to the install of the 51 Suburban. Be careful of the fender to rad support bracket..may require a tad of modification itself. Quote
falconvan Posted December 3, 2016 Report Posted December 3, 2016 Look up an old thread of mine called "51 Moredoor". On page 5 you can see how I modified mine. Quote
tankwilson Posted December 21, 2016 Report Posted December 21, 2016 I took 3 inches out of my stock ones to keep the stock look under the hood. Lots of work but worth it. Quote
Adam H P15 D30 Posted December 22, 2016 Report Posted December 22, 2016 I cut the shelf completely off of mine and made new lower panels. Quote
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