230 front crank seal repair sleeve needed

[mopar_earl]

Hello,

I can't locate a part number to get a repair sleeve for the front crank seal. My crank seal surface was damaged by the previous owner. Anyone happen to know a part number for the sleeve?

1952 Dodge D42

Coronet Club Coupe

230

Thanks,

Earl

[Don Coatney]

Do you have the measurements?

 

http://www.skf.com/binary/26-128020/11337_2-EN-SKF-Speedi-Sleeve.pdf

[mopar_earl]

No I don't. Car is 5 hours away so I was trying to find one by application but can't seem to find a listing. Might have to get one by measurements.

Earl

[Sharps40]

http://www.partsgeek.com/catalog/1954/dodge/meadowbrook/engine_mechanical/crankshaft_repair_sleeve.html

 

for 54 medowbrook 3.8L but likely close.

 

More than likely you can find it at oreilly's/advance, etc.  Just have to reference the right National part numbers.

 

I'm sure NAPA will have them too as the flatties were used in industrial applications (static/tractor/tug/forklift) clean into the 80s.

 

Luck.

[Sharps40]

This one from Oreilly is listed for the 1953 Dodge 230 L6 flathead.

 

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/BCA0/88218/02288.oap?year=1952&make=Dodge&model=Coronet&vi=1331749&ck=Search_repair+sleeve_02288_1331749_3884&keyword=repair+sleeve&pt=02288&ppt=C0332

[Sharps40]

Rock auto lists a speed sleeve for the 52 coronet 230 as PN  SKF 99218 {#12328942} Speedi-Sleeve 

 

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php?carcode=1331749&groupname=Engine&ck[iD]=0&ck[idlist]=0&ck[viewcurrency]=USD&ck[php_SESSION_ID]=erh3viclhl87sukvjvutvbhjd7

[mopar_earl]

Thanks guys! Wonder why the different part numbers? As far as I know they use the same seal and timing cover gakset set numbers.

Earl

[Plymouthy Adams]

I would be leary of the cross based on application of the chart listed..lots of V engines there....I think this very speedi-sleeve has been discussed here before and part number listed as exact...a search may find that thread..

[mopar_earl]

I did search. Found a page of unrelated posts.

I think the differences might be if the engine had a balancer or not. If it has a balancer the seal probably rides on it and if no balancer it rides on the crank? My car has a balancer so I put a call into my buddy where the car is to see if the seal rides on the balancer or the crank. I remember my crank is damaged but I don't recall if the seal rode on the crank.

Earl

[Plymouthy Adams]

http://p15-d24.com/topic/26552-crankshaft-hubpulley-questions/?hl=speedi-sleeve#entry264238

 

balancer or pulley, the sleeve fits the hub...

Edited September 8, 2015 by Plymouthy Adams

[mopar_earl]

http://p15-d24.com/topic/26552-crankshaft-hubpulley-questions/?hl=speedi-sleeve#entry264238

balancer or pulley, the sleeve fits the hub...

I believe you're correct. Now that you mentioned it, I believe my damper and pulley bolted to a hub that went onto the crank. So as long as the hub seal surface is good it doesn't matter what the crank is like, provided the hub slides on it. I would use sealer on the crank to hub. Cool I maybe good now. My memory from teardown isnt very good. So I will check out my hub when I got back out to Ohio end of sept to do more work on it.

Thanks,

Earl

[Plymouthy Adams]

you need no sealer on the crank to hub...excess sealer could prevent full seating of the hub to the crank..ensure it goes on smoothly and the key is being used..DO NOT tighten the timing chain cover till the hub is in place and properly torqued...the chain cover must float during this assembly and center the seal tot he hub.....this very procedure prevents premature leaks

[mopar_earl]

you need no sealer on the crank to hub...excess sealer could prevent full seating of the hub to the crank..ensure it goes on smoothly and the key is being used..DO NOT tighten the timing chain cover till the hub is in place and properly torqued...the chain cover must float during this assembly and center the seal tot he hub.....this very procedure prevents premature leaks

Normally I don't seal machined surfaces but the crank is gouged and such. Looks like an automatic leak to me. Lol I'd brush some Indian Head on it and torque it down. Looks like the guy used a pipe wrench, channel locks, a hammer and hard to tell what on the end of the crank.

I have the manual. I think most engines I've worked on want you to install the cover that way. Haven't looked at the install procedure in the manual yet.

Earl

[Andydodge]

Earl, that link in Plymouthys post above leads to my original thread of a few yrs ago and the Speedie Sleeve referred to with box and number shown is indeed what I used for my 23" 1941 201 cube engine, I'd be about 99.9999% certain it would be the correct one for your 230 cube engine as the front crank seal is listed as the same for all 23" engines.........andyd  

[mopar_earl]

Spoke to my buddy in Ohio. All is good. Due to my worthless memory I forgot the seal rides on the hub and not the damaged crank. Also my buddy said the seal surface on the hub is good.

Thanks,

Earl

Edited September 9, 2015 by mopar_earl

[Plymouthy Adams]

_{knowing how it works is again the first step in getting it done..}

[mopar_earl]

_{knowing how it works is again the first step in getting it done..}

Knowing is half the battle as GI Joe always stated lol

Earl