New Fluid Drive Seal Question. Dodgeb4Ya?

[moose]

I went ahead and bit the bullet and bought a fluid drive seal kit from AB.  $225!  Glad I got the p15 discount.  All I got was the carbon seal ring that goes underneath the screw-in housing type seal that my 50 has.  The picture in the catalog and online shows the whole housing seal and everything... $225.

 

Oh well, I'm over that now.  I fished out the old carbon seal, and compared the two.  Identical to the naked eye.  So I carefully dropped it in, and when I screw the housing back on(no oil in the FD, just a test fit) the output shaft won't spin.  Do I need to soak it in the tractor fluid I bought to refill with?  How does it center itself in there?  Am I missing something?  

 

Bob, please come to the rescue!

[moose]

OK, looks like once again I jumped way ahead of myself.  I am now learning the correct process from my maintenance manual.  Any tips or pointers are still greatly appreciated.

[Dodgeb4ya]

There is a early and late type srtyle seal and housing. The early type has a copper bellows seal housing and reqires it's own graphite # ring. It's just a round ring with no notches on the OD. The late 1950 up style uses a steel housing and the mating ring has two small notches on the OD. For this type you really need the miller tool set to replace it properly. There is no kit to sell. The parts were and are sold separately. As for why the driven plate won't turn.... it will with the correct parts installed properly. Not sure whats going on there?

Bob

Shown is the Miller Tool set used originally to install the double notch graphite seal ring into the FD housing.....

Edited July 20, 2013 by Dodgeb4ya

[Dodgeb4ya]

BTW if you have the early bellows type seal housing the copper bellows can crack at the rings because of rough transmission install or removal. Pics of the bellows seal and graphite ring parts...Also the surfaces the seal ring rides against must be pit free. I don't even know if your 50 has this early style seal type on your FD.

Bob

[moose]

It's the later style, not the bellows.  I am correcting my earlier mistakes by reading the manual.  Thanks Bob, for showing pictures, and your answers.  I feel like you are my parachute when I get somewhere that I don't know enough about on this car.  Thank you for that.

[greg g]

Hey Moose, it is usually best to check your parachute before you jump, not after you have taken the big first step.   Hope you and your chute can get it sorted.