grassfiddler Posted March 19, 2013 Report Posted March 19, 2013 yea i know people not good with cars older than them most the time. im a patient person. most the time when i go to parts store i have the number already that i need. i research numbers and pics to make sure i have what needed. i wonder if one of those cd rom repair manuels would be ok to have and i know they going to be parts i cant find or way over priced. but we will get there. robert horne the master cyclinder in your pic is that factory or slightly modified to help with braking? also robert i think your local to me. jc here. The CD Rom manuel I'm sure would be fine, but I think you will find yourself either carrying the laptop outside with you to the car or printing off pages to take outside with you to use as reference. I personally like a hard copy better but it's each to his own. The repro manuel I bought I'm pretty happy with and I think it's the same compnay that also sells the CD Rom version. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted March 19, 2013 Report Posted March 19, 2013 you will not find the CD user friendly....while a nice resource, my findings are that a laptop in the environment where the manual is needed most makes it susceptible to damage from dirt, chemical and impact to a hard surface...I have seen the ruggedized version laptops suffer damage while trying to use in this environment...the time to do the look up, printing a copy is costly and time consuming...only to find when you get to the shop/car..you may need yet another timely piece of data before proceeding.. Quote
3dodgedoobie Posted March 19, 2013 Author Report Posted March 19, 2013 I have a puter and printer in clean enviroment for garage use only. And like the hard copy myself but sometimes I get the cdroms cheaper. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted March 19, 2013 Report Posted March 19, 2013 there is no way I could use the words garage and clean environment in the same sentence in description of my work area.. 1 Quote
Merle Coggins Posted March 19, 2013 Report Posted March 19, 2013 there is no way I could use the words garage and clean environment in the same sentence in description of my work area.. Same here... Quote
3dodgedoobie Posted March 20, 2013 Author Report Posted March 20, 2013 Well fellas I can say I can. Had computer in there about a yr now. I will try to remember to snap a pic. Quote
3dodgedoobie Posted March 21, 2013 Author Report Posted March 21, 2013 Ok got question. May sound stupid but how do I ttell if I have a fluid drive or straight drive? I have clutrch and what seems to be 3 on tree type. But was reading tthat tthe fluid drive still had clutch. Quote
Don Coatney Posted March 21, 2013 Report Posted March 21, 2013 Ok got question. May sound stupid but how do I ttell if I have a fluid drive or straight drive? I have clutrch and what seems to be 3 on tree type. But was reading tthat tthe fluid drive still had clutch. Suggest you do some research. The search function on this forum is a good place to start. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted March 21, 2013 Report Posted March 21, 2013 well..how about start it...put it in gear and put your foot on the brake..release the clutch..if it stays running you have fluid drive or one very shot clutch...or missing driveshaft Quote
3dodgedoobie Posted March 21, 2013 Author Report Posted March 21, 2013 Well I tried the search function. Fluid drive all that brought up was this thread. Its got the driveshaft. And was hoping to do the whole see if she moves on her own on saturday. Currently still straped to trailer. Plus going to check and see if fuel pump works or not. Have bowl off cleaning. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted March 21, 2013 Report Posted March 21, 2013 actually look at the inspection plate and see if you have the fluid coupler or just a straight clutch over... Quote
_shel_ny Posted March 21, 2013 Report Posted March 21, 2013 (edited) 48 Dodge should have been born with a fluid drive. EDIT: Fluid drive was an option. See later post. See if it says fluid drive on the rear bumper, and on the glove box door. Lift up the front floor mat. Fluid drive coupler should have an inspection cover (EDIT: maybe I should have called this an access cover) on the passengers side of the center hump. The fluid drive coupler would be visible under that cover. (EDIT: the bell housing with an inspection cover/access is actually what is seen there) Fluid drive is free wheeling and will not hold a vehicle in place when in gear. Parking brake or wheel chocks needed to keep car stationary. The search function has become somewhat unfriendly. "fluid drive" search yields 4 pages of this and that to read through. Not much fun there. EDIT: removed link to search results. it did not work search has become unfriendly, or I have become dumber Edited March 23, 2013 by shel_bizzy_48 Quote
3dodgedoobie Posted March 21, 2013 Author Report Posted March 21, 2013 I will check and see if it says it on anything. And check the hump area. If just three on tree that fine with me. Wife can drive that. Im learning the search function its just one of those all in how u type it. Which is ok. As far as the car having it on there the bumpers was laying beside car, glovebox inside is laying in back seat. So could have been swapped for a coupe or something type thing Quote
_shel_ny Posted March 21, 2013 Report Posted March 21, 2013 (edited) As far as the car having it on there the bumpers was laying beside car, glovebox inside is laying in back seat. So could have been swapped for a coupe or something type thing Club Coupe, Coupe, 2dr sedan, 4 dr sedan, and I believe also the vert. used the same bumper, and glove box door. I really believe that the only way your 48 would have anything other than the fluid drive is if someone swapped it out along the way. 1) Fluid coupling with threaded fill plug circled. Visible once access cover in floor, and inspection plug in bell housing removed. (Coupler must be rotated to align threaded plug/bell housing inspection plug/floor access cover) DO NOT drop the threaded plug. 2) Fluid coupling with clutch and pressure plate mounted behind it. 3) Bell housing with black inspection cover on right side. 4) Floor access panel. Edited March 21, 2013 by shel_bizzy_48 Quote
3dodgedoobie Posted March 22, 2013 Author Report Posted March 22, 2013 Hmmm the whole cover Is laying in trunk. And would the shifter be stiff if not running to kick into higher side. Reason I ask is I can move lever from what I think is reverse to 1st but cant get it to operate on rod. I soaked it in some pb blaster etc. And once free a 3 speed manual would be in H formation if not mistaken. And fluid drive would be a lower case h right or wrong? Thats why we had complete cover of tranny area to see what was moving and not moving. And to make sure in nuetral before we fired her up. Quote
_shel_ny Posted March 22, 2013 Report Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) Hmmm the whole cover Is laying in trunk. And would the shifter be stiff if not running to kick into higher side. Reason I ask is I can move lever from what I think is reverse to 1st but cant get it to operate on rod. I soaked it in some pb blaster etc. And once free a 3 speed manual would be in H formation if not mistaken. And fluid drive would be a lower case h right or wrong? Thats why we had complete cover of tranny area to see what was moving and not moving. And to make sure in nuetral before we fired her up. The fluid drive shift pattern in a 48 Dodge is the same as any 3 speed manual. That is what it is. Regular H pattern. It is not like the later tip toe shift. Just a basic 3 speed manual transmission with the fluid drive coupler instead of the basic dry clutch Edited March 22, 2013 by shel_bizzy_48 Quote
3dodgedoobie Posted March 22, 2013 Author Report Posted March 22, 2013 Oh ok. Learned something new. Thanks to all. This car got tagged today with antique tags last 2 digits are 48. Quote
_shel_ny Posted March 22, 2013 Report Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) Link to a thread with some good info explaining "fluid drive" http://mopar.pairserver.com/p15d24ph_forum/index.php?/topic/15718-new-owner-on-a-journey-of-discovery-fluid-drive-question/ Edited March 22, 2013 by shel_bizzy_48 Quote
3dodgedoobie Posted March 23, 2013 Author Report Posted March 23, 2013 ok i did search on the forum about wiring schematic for this car. and i keep coming up with p-15 which is plymouth. i have a dodge is the wiring the same on these? or am i missing something. i bought a factory book on the bay just not got here yet. wanting to get a head start on wiring this car up. and being 6volt i know i need 10,12gauges for most wiring .with 2/0 cable for starting circuit. Quote
3dodgedoobie Posted March 23, 2013 Author Report Posted March 23, 2013 ok another question. how to tell difference between custom 4door town sedan and custom and deluxe 4door sedan? the picture looks the same. and discription cant find Quote
Old School Posted March 23, 2013 Report Posted March 23, 2013 If just three on tree that fine with me. Wife can drive that. You can drive the car like a regular 'three on the tree' if you wish. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted March 23, 2013 Report Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) town sedan are very distinct vehicle and is always from the custom line...it is better know as a non suicide 4 door sedan. here is a picture of my two town sedans.... the blue is a D24..the brown is a D19 Edited March 23, 2013 by Plymouthy Adams Quote
3dodgedoobie Posted March 23, 2013 Author Report Posted March 23, 2013 Wow I guess that means I have a custom or deluxe 4door sedan. Now just to figure out the custom or deluxe. Quote
_shel_ny Posted March 23, 2013 Report Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) Best I have without sunlight for the pic Edited March 24, 2013 by shel_bizzy_48 Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted March 23, 2013 Report Posted March 23, 2013 post a picture and see what it looks like... Quote
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