1940s Chrysler Corporation Model-Year Production

[Bill Kreiner]

The figures come from Chrysler Historical. The Desoto portion includes 1939, and the Imperial portion includes 1950-52. This is a PDF file.

1940s Model-Year Chrysler Production.pdf

[TodFitch]

The figures come from Chrysler Historical. The Desoto portion includes 1939, and the Imperial portion includes 1950-52. This is a PDF file.

Lots of good information here. Did the PDF come from Chrysler Historical or did someone else take the data from Chrysler Historical and key it in?

[desoto1939]

I looked at the PDF and in 1939 the only Convertable was for the Plymouth. Dodge,Desoto and Chrylser did not offer a Convertable. I have pictures on a 39 Desoto coupe that has a sunroof that was a factory option. So that might be what they are referring to.

Not sure if there were any Convertable Coupes that were made for Europe but have not found any documentaiton on this.

I am pretty much up on the 39 Desoto line since I have one so this might be a wrong number but who ever compiled that the thanks for the effort it is always good to see some data still exists.

Rich HArtung

[Bill Kreiner]

Tod, the data was sent to me in Excel format. All I did was convert the document to PDF since people with different versions of Excel complained they couldn't open it. I did not alter the data or structure at all. Also, I can't post an Excel document on this forum. If you want the original Excel version, I can email it to you.

Rich, I do not see any figures for the convertible in 1939 -- the fields are blank. Next to the 1939 columns are the columns for 1940. Are you looking at those?

Edited September 17, 2012 by Bill Kreiner

[TodFitch]

Tod, the data was sent to me in Excel format. All I did was convert the document to PDF since people with different versions of Excel complained they couldn't open it. I did not alter the data or structure at all. Also, I can't post an Excel document on this forum. If you want the original Excel version, I can email it to you.

Rich, I do not see any figures for the convertible in 1939 -- the fields are blank. Next to the 1939 columns are the columns for 1940. Are you looking at those?

Yes Bill, I would like a copy of the Excel file. You can click on my email address at the top of any page at http://www.ply33.com/ (I have it encoded in Javascript in a way that I think will keep spammers from harvesting it and I don't know of a way to do that here other than the private message stuff.)

Thanks!

Tod

[40P10touring sedan]

Thank you Bill, neat reading...never knew there was a '40 plymouth rumble seat coupe before!

Show's my '40 plymouth 4 door sedan as 168,890 made...wonder just how many are still left out there?{aside from mine}

[fstfish66]

rumble seat cars in 1940 intresting,,,

dumb question,,what is a knock down car they are talking about ??

there is a 1939 ply convertable in the chrysler museum that is just beautiful with a rumble seat if i remember correctly

[TodFitch]

rumble seat cars in 1940 intresting,,,

dumb question,,what is a knock down car they are talking about ??

there is a 1939 ply convertable in the chrysler museum that is just beautiful with a rumble seat if i remember correctly

The knock downs were all the pieces of the car (or at least most, I think sometimes the interior was not included) boxed up for export to be assembled at the destination country.

[desoto1939]

Tod, the data was sent to me in Excel format. All I did was convert the document to PDF since people with different versions of Excel complained they couldn't open it. I did not alter the data or structure at all. Also, I can't post an Excel document on this forum. If you want the original Excel version, I can email it to you.

Rich, I do not see any figures for the convertible in 1939 -- the fields are blank. Next to the 1939 columns are the columns for 1940. Are you looking at those?

My mistake, when I was looking at the data I miss read the line with the conv coupe and saw the numbers as being for this model and not the other model.

I guess I need to get new glasses since hitting 61. Blame it on the eyesite.

My mistake.

Rich Hartung

Desoto1939@aol.com

[B-Watson]

Thank you Bill, neat reading...never knew there was a '40 plymouth rumble seat coupe before!

Show's my '40 plymouth 4 door sedan as 168,890 made...wonder just how many are still left out there?{aside from mine}

The "rumble seat` was internal. The business coupe had space behind the front seat, not enough for a normal rear seat, though. Instead, Chrysler placed two fold-up seats in the space.

The seat back was full width and was hinged at the top. The two seat bottoms folded up under the seat back. It was also referred to as a 4 passenger coupe.

Should also point out that from 1936 through 1941 the Plymouth-based Dodge was offered in two models. The lower number was built in both Canada and the U.S. while the higher number was Canada only.

In 1941 the small Dodge came as D20 and D21. The D20 was built in Detroit for export and in Canada as the Kingsway, Dodge`s version of the cheap Plymouth Roadking. Thus the convertibles were all built in the U.S. and never offered in Canada. The D21 was the Canadian Dodge DeLuxe.

[B-Watson]

Just noticed the D21 is not listed. So, to complete the 1941 Dodge, below is the D21 DeLuxe (Canadian) :

Business Coupe - 355

Aux Seat Coupe - 367

2dr Sedan - 1,105

4dr Sedan - 5,257

7-pass Sedan - 181

TOTAL - 7,265

The 1941 Canadian Dodges (Kingsway, DeLuxe and Luxury Liner) came in two series, base and Special.

The D20 production was broken down with 3,380 built at the Lynch Road plant in Detroit, all for export, and 7,491 at the Windsor plant.

There is an error in the 1940 Dodge headings. The D14 was the Luxury Liner DeLuxe (US) and Custom (Canada), D15 was the Dodge Six (US export) and Kingsway (Canada), the D16 the Canadian Dodge DeLuxe but the D17 was the American-built Luxury Liner Special.

[Andydodge]

Bill, have never heard of the folding internal seats called rumble seats........but I digress, my 1941 Plymouth Coupe has the folding internal seats & is a P11 ASC..........Auxillary Seat Coupe, the firewall plate states that its a P11 1063 ASC..........andyd

[builtfercomfort]

In 1940 they list a "Traveler" - any idea what that looks like? It's a C26 model so I assume it's an 8-cyl. I don't remember seeing that model name before.

[Roadkingcoupe]

Here are a couple of pictures of a 1941 CDN Dodge D20 A/S (auxillary seat coupe). The rear seat arrangement is quite handy and provides forward facing seating for passengers. It is quite flexible in that the seat bottoms are independent and fold up into the vertical position behind the seat back. There are a number of variations that include one seat up and one seat down. Both seats "disappear" into the seat back "cavity" and provide a large cargo area.

The Firewall plate includes "A/S Coupe" which I believe indicates Auxillary Seat Coupe.

Never heard it reffered to as a rumble seat coupe before?

Great design and useful.

The "rumble seat` was internal. The business coupe had space behind the front seat, not enough for a normal rear seat, though. Instead, Chrysler placed two fold-up seats in the space.

The seat back was full width and was hinged at the top. The two seat bottoms folded up under the seat back. It was also referred to as a 4 passenger coupe.

Should also point out that from 1936 through 1941 the Plymouth-based Dodge was offered in two models. The lower number was built in both Canada and the U.S. while the higher number was Canada only.

In 1941 the small Dodge came as D20 and D21. The D20 was built in Detroit for export and in Canada as the Kingsway, Dodge`s version of the cheap Plymouth Roadking. Thus the convertibles were all built in the U.S. and never offered in Canada. The D21 was the Canadian Dodge DeLuxe.

Edited September 19, 2012 by Roadkingcoupe

[Ricky Luke]

In 1940 they list a "Traveler" - any idea what that looks like? It's a C26 model so I assume it's an 8-cyl. I don't remember seeing that model name before.

Check out the online Imperial Club's brochure section -http://www.imperialclub.com/Yr/1940/Brochure/index.htm

There's a Traveler Sedan, 3 and 6 passenger coupes, and a Victoria... They are 8's.

I'm amazed to see that my Australian bodied 1940 Chrysler Royal is one of 144 RHD chassis that were exported. Ther chassis number is in the Windsor range, so it all fits.

I really wonder where the rest of them are.

Rick

[B-Watson]

In 1940 they list a "Traveler" - any idea what that looks like? It's a C26 model so I assume it's an 8-cyl. I don't remember seeing that model name before.

The Traveler was a one year model.

In 1939 the 8-cylinder model line up went, from bottom to top, Imperial, New Yorker, Saratoga, Custom Imperial.

For 1940, the Imperial became the Traveler and the Custom Imperial became the Crown Imperial. So the Traveler was the cheapest 8 cylinder Chrysler in 1940.

Things finally got into the scheme we know today for 1941 - Saratoga, New Yorker, Crown Imperial Special and Crown Imperial. The CIS was a New Yorker Town Sedan with the Crown Imperial's engine, fancier interior, wheel covers and a few other goodies. The production sheets show 890 were built with 4 more for export.

That was the last regular sized Imperial until the Derham customized Imperial models of 1949.

The 1941-48 "6 passenger coupes" and "8 passenger coupes" should be "sedans".

Edited September 20, 2012 by B-Watson

[Bill Kreiner]

Bill, I sent you several emails containing attachments a few weeks ago. Did you get any of them? It's all production data I thought you'd be interested in.

[fstfish66]

The knock downs were all the pieces of the car (or at least most, I think sometimes the interior was not included) boxed up for export to be assembled at the destination country.

thanks