jake_gogan Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 (edited) i have a 1953 fargo 1/2 ton pick up with the 218 straight six. i recently tried putting an ebay tune up kit in the distributer until i realised it was the wrong one.. so i put it back together and now i have no spark... i should of taken some pics before i started. the distributer is part number 1345464. i did buy new distributer tune up kit and it came with all new parts i just need some info on where the wires go.. i think i got a ground wire or power wire going to the wrong spot... Edited April 16, 2012 by jake_gogan Quote
HanksB3B Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 You'd think that the part number 1345464 is the important one, but it's the number in the lower left of the tag probably starting with 1AT (can't read your tag) Hank Quote
Dave72dt Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 from what I can see of the internal wiring, you have it correct. Sometimes the wire ends will turn a bit when tighening the nuts and the ends will ground to the breaker plate. Correct gap and clean contacts? Quote
jake_gogan Posted April 17, 2012 Author Report Posted April 17, 2012 (edited) it is the 1at-4012 i cant rely verify that its a 1 or an A but it looks like an A and the one is unreadable. the ground wire that is going from the base plate to the condenser is the only item i can figure thats in the wrong place... just put new contact points condenser rotor and cap on today and still no luck with spark.. im gonna pull the top off the distributer and check power flow and see what i can figure out from here... new pic of the distributer after i put the new points and condenser in. electricsal taped any exposed wires that might effect anything... thanks for the advise guys Edited April 17, 2012 by jake_gogan Quote
TodFitch Posted April 17, 2012 Report Posted April 17, 2012 it is the 1at-4012 i cant rely verify that its a 1 or an A but it looks like an A and the one is unreadable. the ground wire that is going from the base plate to the condenser is the only item i can figure thats in the wrong place... just put new contact points condenser rotor and cap on today and still no luck with spark.. im gonna pull the top off the distributer and check power flow and see what i can figure out from here... new pic of the distributer after i put the new points and condenser in. electricsal taped any exposed wires that might effect anything... thanks for the advise guys Points provide a path to ground when closed and an open circuit when open. So use a test lamp or ohmmeter to check to see if you have a good ground when points are closed and no ground when points open. If you don't have a good ground then look at the path between the points and the distributor body to see that everything is well secured. If you always have a ground, check for shorting on the hot side of the points. Looking at your photos I am wondering if the plate the points mount on is well grounded to the body. The whole plate moves based on the vacuum advance and that makes grounding it problematical. Typically there is a flexible pig tail between that plate and the distributor body some place to assure a good ground and I don't see it in your photos. Quote
jake_gogan Posted April 17, 2012 Author Report Posted April 17, 2012 (edited) put all the new stuff in and got some info from another memeber by email desoto1939@aol.com and now everything works... took it for a spin around the block and its got better pick up then before.... thanks for all the help... this picture is how everything is on mine distributer now that it works... Edited April 19, 2012 by jake_gogan Quote
HanksB3B Posted April 17, 2012 Report Posted April 17, 2012 (edited) Which picture? (they look completely different) I'm thinking you removed the short black wire in the upper left hand of this first attachment in your post above. Mine looks like this: Thanks, Hank Edited April 17, 2012 by HanksB3B Quote
Dave72dt Posted April 17, 2012 Report Posted April 17, 2012 The first one looks like the one that works. The secopnd one was a picture he originally posted when it didn't work. Ground wire attached to the grounding point screw. Apparently not grounding throught the movable plate Quote
chargerdave Posted April 19, 2012 Report Posted April 19, 2012 By the "first one" do you mean the picture on the left, because it is the only one that looks like it would work. The one on the right has the "hot wire" to the points wrongly attached to the terminal with the wire installed between the insulator and the distributor. This keeps the insulator from doing its job, by keeping the hot wire at the terminal from grounding into the body of the distributor before fire reaches the points. The picture on the left has it attached properly with the insulator between the wire and the body of the distributor. The ground strap on the one on the right is also grounded to the condensor mount instead of from the mounting plate to the body of the distributor. The one on the left has it grounded correctly. from the points mounting screw to the body of the distributor. Quote
jake_gogan Posted April 19, 2012 Author Report Posted April 19, 2012 im sorry for the confusion i only meant to post two different pics of the correct way my wires went... which is the left picture i will take off the second picture to avoid confusion. plus that picture is posted in my first post... Quote
Merle Coggins Posted April 19, 2012 Report Posted April 19, 2012 Hank, look closely where the wire to the points attaches at the housing insulator. In the initial pictures it is between the insulator and the housing, which would short it out directly. In his last pic it is correctly attached inboard of the insulator. I missed it the first time too. Merle Quote
HanksB3B Posted April 19, 2012 Report Posted April 19, 2012 Hank, look closely where the wire to the points attaches at the housing insulator. In the initial pictures it is between the insulator and the housing, which would short it out directly. In his last pic it is correctly attached inboard of the insulator. I missed it the first time too. Merle Hello Merle, That'll do it for sure. Thanks, Hank Quote
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