48P15Annie Posted March 31, 2012 Report Posted March 31, 2012 I took the air cleaner off the car today, to clean it out and put new oil in it. The "tension ring" with the turn key never had a good hold on the carb, so I don't think it was ever put on right. But, I cannot seem to find any pictures, or anything in the service manual, about correct assembly/installation of the oil bath air cleaner. Can anyone provide pictures of how it is assembled and installed? Thanks- Quote
Jerry Roberts Posted March 31, 2012 Report Posted March 31, 2012 You might try putting a gasket between the air cleaner and the carborator . It doesn't take much . I cut a gasket out of a disposable food container for mine . Quote
48P15Annie Posted March 31, 2012 Author Report Posted March 31, 2012 I know you guys around here don't like me, but please, I really need help on this. I have been trying to get this air cleaner back on since yesterday afternoon. If I get this help that I need, you never have to see my name again. This assembly isn't in the service manual, owners manual, or anywhere else I have looked. Please help me. Quote
Jerry Roberts Posted March 31, 2012 Report Posted March 31, 2012 Well perhaps you are not getting a response because the problem is just too simple . Are you running out of threads on the shaft that tightens the clamp ? If so , can you put a spacer under the nut ? Is the clamp stretched out of shape ? If so can you bend it back into shape ? Is the clamp in the right position to grab both the bottom of the air cleaner and the top of the carborator ? Do you just need a thicker gasket ? Quote
DCurrent Posted March 31, 2012 Report Posted March 31, 2012 I took the air cleaner off the car today, to clean it out and put new oil in it. The "tension ring" with the turn key never had a good hold on the carb, so I don't think it was ever put on right. But, I cannot seem to find any pictures, or anything in the service manual, about correct assembly/installation of the oil bath air cleaner. Can anyone provide pictures of how it is assembled and installed?Thanks- I just took the air cleaner off my 48 today for the first time. I can see that there is something you should know. Make sure the collar that is attached to the bottom of the cleaner is open wider than the carb top. It may be nesessary to even stretch it a tad. If it is closed the cleaner will not set on the carb properly thus allowing the cleaner to tip and teeter and not get a good seal. As far as I can tell there is no need for a gasket. Hope this helps! Darren Quote
james curl Posted March 31, 2012 Report Posted March 31, 2012 (edited) What makes you think we do not like you? I do not have any experience with the stock air cleaner as I removed mine and installed dual Carter YH carburetors with straight tops on my 48. If I knew the answer to your question I would gladly tell you what it takes to do the job, but I have no knowledge to share with you on this subject so did not post until now. I do not dislike anyone here on the forum. Edited March 31, 2012 by james curl clarity Quote
mach0415 Posted April 1, 2012 Report Posted April 1, 2012 Which carb is on it? I have a Stromberg and the air cleaner that was in the trunk did not fit, but was accurate for a 47 P15. Come to find out, my 47 Plymouth 218 turned out to be a 39 dodge 218 that was originally equipped with the Stromberg. Hence, the reason why it did not fit. It was correct with use of a Carter. Quote
40P10touring sedan Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 48P15, Can you post a pic of the bottom of your air cleaner? A pic is worth a thousand words, think of the typing that'll save ya. BTW, your fine here....I however asked now to convert my oil bath aircleaner to a paper element so some folks don't like me now{lol}...trust me - your Ok! Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 Also, how about posting a pic of your carb, showing the upper half or so.......on mine there is a raised ring or ridge around the body and the loop of the air cleaner tightens onto that. On my cleaner, there is a groove running around the middle of that band that tightens it. They kinda jive with one another. Quote
greg g Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 From what I remember the carb pictured above is correct for the typical oil bath air cleaner. The clamp you refer to expands to fit around the raised ridge of the Carter Carburetor. When tightened, it secures the the assembly to the carb. However it is not the only attachment point. There should also be a diagonal piece of flat steel the connects the side of the aircleaner bottom assembly to the head. It might be helpful when you post a question to include all the details of your situation like the carb make, and model as there are several different possibilities, and a picture or 2 of the situation. I know forums like this usually involves folks opinions of how things should be but doing it long distance a blind can limit opinions. Hey Bob T, what are those items on your vacuum line??? Something related tot he convertible top?? Quote
Rusty O'Toole Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 Some good suggestions so far. You have to be careful the filter fits down tight on the carb and the clamping ring is fitted on accurately. Then it should tighten up. If not, the ring could be stretched or expanded. This happens over the years. To fix it, lay the ring on a hard flat surface and tap tap tap with a hammer to flatten it slightly. Go easy when you do this. Do not mark or dent the ring. Do not go too far. You just need to flatten it a little tiny bit and it will once again clamp on tight. I have had to do this on several old cars. If there is a strut from the engine to the air filter make sure it is in place, if it is gone you should see where it bolted to the engine and to the filter. Make a new one out of a strip of steel. Drill a bolt hole at the engine end and make a slot at the other end. The strut is important, the weight of the filter will eventually bend the clamp as the engine rocks and moves around. Quote
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