Brake shoe lining too thick?

[Ryan Robbins]

Ryan......glad you found the fix.

Great looking car.

Is it stock running gear?

Thanks! Yes, its the stock flathead(my license plate reads STR8 6 ) with split exhaust manifold and a dual intake setup from Langdon. Disc brakes upfront, 12V and soon to be(if everything goes ok) dropped front spindles and an overdrive transmission.

[desoto1939]

Somebody had mentioned in another thread that at car shows they take off points if fender attaching bolts aren't original.

Do they inspect the brake system and take off points if new cylinders and push pins are used?

And, if the old ones must be used, why are the old pins like hens teeth to find?

My parts book for my '47 Desoto Custom says that the front and rear push pins are the same part number. They don't list a separate pin for the rear brakes.

Bernbaum does list the push pins but to my knowledge has not had them in stock for quite some time.

For a man who remanufacturers countless other parts, and sells the cylinders, why not these pins which look very simple to duplicate?

Answer to judgin the brake cylinders.

Since the brake cylinders are not visible becasue of the brake drum they can not judge these items. But if you put on a power disk brake system on a car that did not have this as an original item then they will deduct major points.

My 39 Desoto had a single master cyclinder system and was not equiped with power disck brakes it came with drum brakes. If you changed over to disk brakes then the judges will take off major points. Remember AACA expects the car to look and be restored as if it just came off out of the dealers lot.

They do not check for exaact color match but if a 39 Desoto had orange paint on the body they would question the color becasue they know that was not a typical color in time frame. The owner would then have to prove that the color was an optional color via documentatin or color chips.

Here is an example. There was a 1939 Plymouth on the show field at Hershey severalyears ago. This four door convertable had dual side mounts. The cars were never produced with dual side mounts. The new owner had documentatin from the original ownere that this was a custom car that Plymouth created the dual sidemounts for the original owner at the factory and also had the original bill of sale and build sheet to prove that this was done at the factory. This why you need to have all of your ducks in a row when having a car judged at an AACA event.

Rich Hartung

desoto1939@aol.com

[Young Ed]

This that 39?

[Cpt.Fred]

nice car, ryan! really clean looking, i like the rims.

bernbaum has lots of stuff in his lists that they actually don't stock...

usually when i order parts there i only get half of what i need, but they send it off without contacting before... that's why i have lots of pieces lying around here

i can't use without other things they didn't include:rolleyes:

my repro brakeparts all seemed to fit, but unfortunately they tend to leaking.

i will try to gather a set of old stuff and have it overhauled in the states.

have fun with the car!

ed: i don't think so, the one on your photo has only 2 doors?

nice story, though. i would like to know what those judges have to say about my car:eek:

[Young Ed]

You're right well then there's another 39 with dual sidemounts.

[desoto1939]

You're right well then there's another 39 with dual sidemounts.

Fred, The coupe is the one that I was talking about. I retract my statement about the 4 door.

Also the tires that are on this car are the correct tires with the ribbed affect they are goodyears. AACA states that all tires must match even spares. The orginal whitewalls of this vintage were double whitewalls adn there was a front tire and also a rear tire but these are not being made.

I have met the owner of this 39 Plymouth coupe and this is how i knew about the dual sidemonts. The story is that the original owner always had dual sidemounts on her cars and wanted the 39 coupe to have them. Since they origanly available on one side Ply Motor division made a customized wheel wheel for the other side. As stated the current owner has the bill of sale and the original letter from Ply Motor Div to document the customization. AACA then had to accept the car for judging and can not deduct any points. They can deduct points if they find workmanship or paint issue and fit issues but not for the dual sidemounts.

Rich Hartung

[Young Ed]

My only memory of that 39 is the owners poor wife trying to drive it through judging at the WI national meet and almost rolling backwards into the car behind her after stalling the engine.