Front Bumper Question

[rockable]

Is this the correct front bumper for my '41 Plymouth? If not, what is it from?

[Andydodge]

Rock, I mentioned that I wasn't sure about the bumper as all the 40/41 Plymouth pics I've seen and looking at the bumpers on both my OZ 1940 Dodge(which is based on the 1940 Plymouth) and my 41 Plymouth Coupe show the same bumper, albeit with different overiders and wings(on the 41 Plymouth) but the same bumper.....that one on your car reminds me of a 1940 or 41 Dodge bumper as the 40 Dodge (the proper US one, not my Oz car)had a "dip" in the bumper and I think the 41 Dodge also had a similar treatment.......I'd use it until or unless I could be sure or come up with something else........personally it still looks o/k......andyd

[P-12 Tommy]

Nope.The Deluxe model had a plain chrome bumper and the Special DeLuxe had wings on the ends with a bumperette in the middle. Just like Andys.

Tom

[Young Ed]

The bumper looks close but the guards look like 50-52 dodge units.

[rockable]

Hmm. I see what you mean, but I still sort of dig the Dodge bumper. It appears to have the correct rear bumper.

Andy, are the "wings" bolted on over the standard bumper?

[Andydodge]

Rock, I did a check on US ebay, Collector Cars 1940-49 which is a standard group I look under and there are a few 1940 Dodges, a 1940 deSoto and a couple of 1940 Chryslers.....from what I could see you front bumper looks closest to a 40/41 Dodge bumper with 1940 Chrylser overriders......the 1940/41 Plymouth basic bumper bar is the same for both yrs, but the overiders are different and 41 plymouths had those "wings" available either standar on the Special Deluxe P12 or as a dealer option........anyway I'd check ebay and other sites, all the bumpers would appear to have the same side profile, but differed in overriders, etc and shape as viewed from direct front on..........andyd

[Andydodge]

Rock..oops.....and yes those chrome "wings" just bolt straight on the ends of the bumpers, my car has them front and back, and when using these wings you only have the single thin,tall overrider.........I only have a front one on my car, am looking for one for the rear bumper but as these overriders and wings were never used here in Oz I'll have to get one from the US......any spare?........lol...................andyd

[Young Ed]

Andy do you have a pic of one solo? I have this I took off a p15 bumper.

[Jim Yergin]

Here is a picture of the front bumper on my '41 with the "wings" and center over-rider:

Here is a picture of the rear bumper. The basic bumper is different for the woodies and cannot use the "wings" or over-rider because they would interfere with the tailgate when lowered.

Jim Yergin

Edited April 9, 2010 by Jim Yergin

[rockable]

Hmm. This one appears to have a similar bumper to mine. What's up with that? You don't suppose they substituted, do you?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1941-Plymouth-Coupe_W0QQitemZ290423386132QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item439e953014

[desoto1939]

I have a 39 DeSoto that has the front bumper that is on your car.

Attached is a picture of the front of the car. The 39 Chrysler had a dip in the front so you could see the lower waterfall scoop of the grill. I also think the 39 Dodge and the same bumper as the Desoto.

Here are several pictures and how about two 39 Desoto's coming into a car show at the same time you do not see this happen very often.

Rich Hartung

Desoto1939@aol.com

[rockable]

Same bumper, different guards.

[Andydodge]

Rock, does your front bumper have a dip in the centre when viewed from in front or a slight protrusion but no dip, only noticed when viewed directly from above........reason I ask is that your pic makes it look like a dip in the bumper as it was taken from slightly above.............lol..........andyd