buds truck Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 found a 1969 318 and 727 trans combo complete down to the fan blade and belts with 40k miles on it for $300.00. I will go pick it up Saturday. I am a happy camper. Bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51 Fargo Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 dam good score there Bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallblockjunkie Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 good for you now, we can both get back on the projects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buds truck Posted August 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 gonna have to wait till mid August. time to go fishin in two weeks!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl b51 Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Well Bud you know what they say, Do what ya need ta do . Good Luck fishin Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48Dodger Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Nice work Bud. The majority of my "stock" around the ranch is 68-70 B+A body stuff. If you need anything 318 to 440 I might have it. Can't wait to see your truck on the road. 48D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buds truck Posted August 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Nice work Bud. The majority of my "stock" around the ranch is 68-70 B+A body stuff. If you need anything 318 to 440 I might have it. Can't wait to see your truck on the road.48D I hear I might have to change the tail shaft and the housing because it has the e- brake on the rear of the shaft housing. Got spares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48Dodger Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 In 69 it should be a A-904, not 727-A (727-B is 1972 and up) . Check and see if its a 727-B cuz there's a bunch of those around. My guess its a 904. Most sellers who see a 60's mopar automatically assume 727..... I run a 904 with a shift kit on my 72 stock car, which will be the same I'm using for Bonneville. If your motor/tranny is from the 70's its get a little more complicated in the history. 727 small block vs big block housing etc... Here's a thread I was watching earlier: http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?p=477508#post477508 And a good car craft article: http://www.carcraft.com/newlook/crc_act/116_0302_trans/index.html Vin decoding: http://www.stockmopar.com/how-to-decode-a-1969-1974-fender-tag-part-1.html And of course Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TorqueFlite#A727 48D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buds truck Posted August 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 got the motor, looks real good, what is a good site for decoding the engine block number to find out what it really is. the people tell me it is a 318.3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl b51 Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Bud look on the right side of the block about 2 inches below the block deck . The first 7 digits are casting numbers the next 3 digits are the displacement . Hope this is what you are looking for keep us updated . Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buds truck Posted August 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Ok, here is a set of pix of the new motor after a good cleaning. the oil is clean, no sludge in the engine, I will have to look for a 4 barrel set up though. It was not a 40k motor as advertised, it had a touch over 49k on it. still happy with the deal. Not sure which trans I have, the length of the trans mount does not jive with Tims measurements he uploaded. I found a set of numbers on the drivers pan that I am going to research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Elder Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Are you going to have to switch to a rear sump pick up and oil pan? That's what I had to do with my 360 from a coronet when it went in my 79 PW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4852dodge Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 That combination is a heavy duty unit from a med duty truck or rv. Good find, they were intended for hard use in med duty trucks so all is built accordingly. My dad had one in his 1970 24' Winnie, it would run all day without a wimper and the only work in 100,000 miles were belts and oil changes. The e-brake on the tranny works very well, but you must use a driveshaft that has the sliding spline in the driveshaft. This is common with larger trucks. The driveline combination I am planning for my B-3-126 is a 440 and auto from my disassembled motorhome. The trans has the mounts for the e-brake but did not have it. The brakes are in the rear wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48Dodger Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 From what I can tell it looks like a 318/904 from a Van. The Trans park brake and front sump pan are typically use on those. Passenger oil pans are in the middle and Trucks in the back. If it's a 69, it needs the hardened seats and nylon timing gear changed out. The 318 came with better heads in the late 80's I think with the closed chambers and hardened seats. Might be better than tryin to use those heads. Don't lose that damper either. 318's are internally balanced, but the thickness and the timing mark are important references you can use if you go to a HP damper. Are you sure its a 69' ? Can't wait to see what you do with it. 48D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buds truck Posted August 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 it came out of a 1969 dodge class a motorhome. would you believe that the casting date on the block is...... get this........... 3-18-68. same date as the cubic inches. strange. in looking at the trans pan, there is a website that shows the difference in the pans, by the looks of it, it looks to be a 727. How do I tell for sure? I got the stamping # off the drivers side at the edge of the pan area, but can't find a website to tell me what it means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48Dodger Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 http://www.700r4l60e.com/transmission_chrysler.html As you can see, they are very similar in appearance. But really, its hard to say from your one picture. Check the shape of the pan and let us know. 48D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Nielsen Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 That's a 727. The 'bulge' or 'hump' in the case and pan where the dipstick enters is the giveaway on the identification. 727s bulge out, 904s don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buds truck Posted August 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 yup, tis a 727 for sure. Now, does anyone have a replacement tailshaft and housing so I can change this to a non emergency brake transmission? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4852dodge Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 If you don't want the e-brake on the tailshaft you will need to change the housing, shaft and probably other parts. It would be easier to not hook up the trans brake and only use the wheel e-brake. Do you have the driveshaft from the donor? It can be shortened to the length you need. The trans e-brake worked just fine and on larger trucks than a B series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buds truck Posted August 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 If you don't want the e-brake on the tailshaft you will need to change the housing, shaft and probably other parts. It would be easier to not hook up the trans brake and only use the wheel e-brake. Do you have the driveshaft from the donor? It can be shortened to the length you need. The trans e-brake worked just fine and on larger trucks than a B series. I only have the front part of the driveshaft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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