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Bought self-cancelling signals, want to repop them!


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OK, it's probably not practical, but what a cool setup. I bought an Arrow N-237 self-cancelling turn signal set today and I'm tickled to death with it. It is so cool to watch that little wheel spin and cancel the signal arm. I'd love to talk with one of you electronically inclined fellows about what it might take to repop this set. What a great item to have on an old Plymouth!

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Charlie.....I like this brand, myself. They also have a cancel wheel....just has to be designed for the specific car in question. I had one for a Chevy....it would not contact the wheel right on a plymouth. Made by the Autolamp Co.

Link to that ad: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-Mercury-Hudson-Plymouth-Turn-Signal-Switch-Vintage_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33717QQihZ012QQitemZ220070419319QQrdZ1

AND.....along with those reproduction signals, you could remake these turn signal dogs......the eyes flash. Sell as a package deal.

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Allstate is the brand I have on mine. Added sometime between 1963 and 1985, so I have no clue as to what the vintage is. The wheel has seen better days. I took it apart and cleaned up the contacts to get it working again a few years ago. Sometimes it works as planned, other times I have to hold it in place. It always self-cancels, though.

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Bob,

The Autolamp set-up will fit the P15 perfectly - the one you've posted is exactly the same as the unit that is on my car.

The trick is to turn the fixing bracket through 180 degrees, to allow the cancelling wheel to butt up against the hub of the steering wheel.

When I got the car, the unit was incorrectly fitted, but it was a 10-minute fix.

R.

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Grady, You might try looking at a "pipe and steel" business. We have such a place and they have some various sizes and types of steel rod. I bought a piece to make something with, and it was real cheap. Don't now recall the exact particulars of that item. A lot of the rod came in 12 foot lengths, so I had them cut in in half so as to be more manageable.

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Don't know about other old MoPars, but my '41 De Soto wheel does not have much ( if any) of a tapered neck/hub on its under-side to drive those idler/cancel wheels...

Previous owner fitted a 1940's Guide (GM) unit to my car... it has the idler wheel, but it won't travel out far enough to contact the steering wheel, not that there's a uniform surface for it to ride on...

If you were going to go to the trouble & expense to repro one of these, why not re-pop the MoPar unit, which utilized a steel ring with a tab that pressed into the underside of the steering-wheel hub, and pretty-much worked with all the 1940's MoPar wheels ?

Arrow made good stuff, and was a leading producer of marker & signal lighting for trucks from the 1920's thru the '50s, at least.

My '61 Willys P.U. had factory turn-signals, in the form of a Sparton clamp-on unit, with the rubber cancel wheel...

I have scrounged various old turn-signal controls over the years, including some Arrow stuff from the 1930's... one outfit had little "fingers" the clamped onto each spoke of the steering wheel, to catch a raised fin on the control lever: when the lever was in the R or L turn position, the "cancel fin" swung into the radius described by the cancel "fingers"...

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:) I repaired my old turn signal switch wheel by cutting out the old material (Rubber) and replacing it with a new O Ring that fit and epoxied the ring in place. It work great now and I never haft to touch the switch arm after I make a turn.
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I'm currently using a $20 unit purchased from Wirth's Automotive. Works OK, but is not self canceling. I invented some indicator lights, but still forget to turn them off sometimes. Just call me "grandpa".

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