Old Car Manuals online

[radioguy7]

Hi Guys, Just ran across this site and I was overwhelmed, it's just a super wealth of information for the classic car enthusiast. Tons of owners manuals scanned and readable online. I spent like an hour just browsing all the manuals and I wanted to spend more time. I see this site becoming an addiction. Check it out

www.oldcarmanualproject.com

[radioguy7]

Wow those manuals are really cool, sure glad someone took the time to post the link

[Norm's Coupe]

I can't speak for others, but I like the old fashioned way of reading manuals and books. Sit back in recliner, open the book and read it instead of on a computer screen. Or, in the summer go out and sit in the lawn chair, enjoy the fresh air when I read. Just like the good old fashioned nostalgic way.

But..........then again, I also much prefer a phone call instead of email messages. The phone call or hand written letter is more personal than an email. Another problem with email is, people seem to think they are contacting you by simply forwarding some sort of junk mail they received. To me, that's just what that is, junk mail and isn't a personal contact at all.

[Uncle-Pekka]

Well, I agree with the radioDude, that the TOCMP web site is one of the greatest places in the web (after the P15/D24 forum, of course)...

You will find tons of scanned period brochures, owner manuals, carburettor manuals, etc. All are high quality scanned originals. I've also printed out some in color or b/w. Some useful some just fun to browse. All are excellent sources of information and because they are car maker publications they are correct, not edited.

Of course it would be nice to have the originals on your hand, but as far as I know there are no such libraries on the planet...

[radioguy7]

Of course the real thing in your hand would be better, but we're talking about an online resource. Kind of unrealistic to go out and buy manuals for cars that you don't own or even intend to own just to have it in your hand to read. You can also more your pC to and open window and get lots of fresh air!!

Just glad some people took the time to go take a look. I thought it was a gold mine myself and wanted to share with those who maybe were not aware of it.

I myself am not a big PC person either, I'd rather have the hard copy to read. but as far as shop manuals, I do like to print out the pages to take out to the garage and get them all greasy and finger printed instead of my original hard copy.

[Norm's Coupe]

That's why I have two service manuals for my P15. The reprint I use in the garage. The original stays put away to keep it clean. That said, even the reprint is not full of dirt and grease, even after having it nearby while rebuilding the engine. I always wipe the grease off my hands before touching the book, or even another tool. That way you don't get your hands dirty when doing a clean job, because everything stays clean. I even wipe the tool off right away before laying it down or putting it away.

[radioguy7]

That's why I have two service manuals for my P15. The reprint I use in the garage. The original stays put away to keep it clean. That said' date=' even the reprint is not full of dirt and grease, even after having it nearby while rebuilding the engine. I always wipe the grease off my hands before touching the book, or even another tool. That way you don't get your hands dirty when doing a clean job, because everything stays clean. I even wipe the tool off right away before laying it down or putting it away.[/quote']

Let me guess, you wear white while working on your car?? and your garage floor is painted to a mirror finish, can see your reflection in it?? LOL

A buddy of mine is like that, his garage is so neat you could throw dinner on the floor and eat off it. His 55 chevy I don't think has enough dirt or grease on the whole car to fill a thimble!!

Try rebuilding the axles on a 1954 Dodge M37 weapons carrier!! I swear I scooped out about 3 gallons of grease out of those axles. The difference is the size of the toy you are working on. Big toys usually get really dirty.

[Norm's Coupe]

Let me guess, you wear white while working on your car?? and your garage floor is painted to a mirror finish, can see your reflection in it?? LOL

A buddy of mine is like that, his garage is so neat you could throw dinner on the floor and eat off it. His 55 chevy I don't think has enough dirt or grease on the whole car to fill a thimble!!

Try rebuilding the axles on a 1954 Dodge M37 weapons carrier!! I swear I scooped out about 3 gallons of grease out of those axles. The difference is the size of the toy you are working on. Big toys usually get really dirty.

Hey, you laugh and kid about wearing white while working on my car. Well, yes, I've been know to wear not only a short sleeve dress white shirt, but also a long sleeved one.

Now, lets forget all about working on cars with a dress white shirt on. Let's move on to spraying liquid asphalt roof coating onto a factory roof. Not only with a dress white shirt on, but also with a sport coat and tie to go with it on. Yes, I did that for over 30 years. Only messed up one shirt in all those years.

Moving on, those pumps, spray guns and hoses would become stopped up or simply break down once in awhile too. The pump was one that sits in a 55 gallon drum with the shaft of the pump at the bottom of the drum. Now, when those broke down, you had to remove the pump from the 55 gallon drum full of liquid asphalt, then tear the shaft of the pump down to repair it. Or, sometimes remove the ears at the top of the pump air motor that was full of grease if that was the problem. Yes, again, all done with a white shirt, tie and sometimes with the sport coat on.

That beats your axle tear down and then some. :D

A lot of times in my younger years, you could also see me cutting the grass in a white shirt. Did remove the tie though and change my dress pants to other work pants.

Now, my garage floor is not mirror finish though. It's got patches in the cracks in the floor, some dust and the leaves keep flying in there, no matter how many times I sweep the floor. My garage is a working garage, not a show garage. But........the walls are all nice, bright white with neat stuff hanging on them.

Now, I realize not everyone is that neat when working on something. I have a friend who can't change the oil in his car, without looking like he rolled in the oil from head to tow.

You have to understand one thing about my childhood. As a kid, every time my brother and I got a speck of dirt while playing outside, our mother would make us take a bath and clean up as soon as we walked in the house. Sometimes that meant 5 or 6 baths a day, and that many times changing clothes too. So........we both tried to stay as clean as possible when we did something. So........I had a lot of practice doing things back then and staying clean while doing it.

[radioguy7]

Norm,

You have to understand one thing about my childhood. As a kid, every time my brother and I got a speck of dirt while playing outside, our mother would make us take a bath and clean up as soon as we walked in the house. Sometimes that meant 5 or 6 baths a day, and that many times changing clothes too. So........we both tried to stay as clean as possible when we did something. So........I had a lot of practice doing things back then and staying clean while doing it.

Ok this explains a lot Norm, there's therapy you can get now a days for that you know.

Oh, and tearing down axles on military vehicles is THE dirtiest job there is btw, I'd gladly put hot tar on a roof if I had the choice. White shirt and suit jacket?? are you a few cards short of a full deck???

[Don Coatney]

are you a few cards short of a full deck???

I thought I was the only one who saw that.

[Norm's Coupe]

Norm,

You have to understand one thing about my childhood. As a kid, every time my brother and I got a speck of dirt while playing outside, our mother would make us take a bath and clean up as soon as we walked in the house. Sometimes that meant 5 or 6 baths a day, and that many times changing clothes too. So........we both tried to stay as clean as possible when we did something. So........I had a lot of practice doing things back then and staying clean while doing it.

Ok this explains a lot Norm, there's therapy you can get now a days for that you know.

Oh, and tearing down axles on military vehicles is THE dirtiest job there is btw, I'd gladly put hot tar on a roof if I had the choice. White shirt and suit jacket?? are you a few cards short of a full deck???

Nope. That was the required dress for my job. I was both sales and service for the products we sold. So were all the other sales people. Most did the same as I did. Others took old clothes with them to wear for the service part when needed. I would not spray the whole roof. I was there to instruct the plant maintenance people on how to do the job and use the equipment. I would only spray a couple hundred square feet each time myself, then turn the gun over to the maintenance person. However, I would also stick around for a couple of hours on the roof with them to make sure things were going right and answer any questions. If the pump broke down, we did not allow the plant maintenance personnel to tear it down. The equipment was ours that we just loaned them for the job.

No, I'm not a few cards short of a full deck. I just didn't want to have to change clothes several times a day, and neither did the rest of the salespeople.

I will say though, I hired one guy back in the late 70's as a salesman. Now, even though I explained to him in the interview, he must not have understood completely. Before I hired him he was a copy machine salesperson prior to me hiring him. On the day he was to start, I had to drive up north to help a large foundry (made GM brake parts castings) that is about 140 miles away. Because we needed to be at the plant around 7:30 AM, I had him meet me at the office at 5:30 AM. The night before we got a lot of rain. He showed up dressed in a sport coat, dress pants, white shirt & tie and WHITE SHOES. I did not say anything about the white shoes because I didn't have time for him to go home and change them. Got to the foundry and with the Plant Engineer to start the roof job. Well........to get to the building we were working on you had to walk through about 3 inches of pure black foundry dust that had turned to mud from the rain. "Remember those white shoes". Then we get on top of the pitched metal decking roof that was about 3 stories high to where we were supposed to start. The only place to run the hose was through a vent in the next roof section on the other side of the peak of the roof we were on. So.....the plant engineer sent one of the maintenance men over the peak to get that part started. Only problem was, not long after the guy went over to the other section (out of our sight) another person from the plant came up and told us he had fell through the roof. Guess the metal deck had rusted from bottom up, because the top looked great, no rust at all. Luckily the guy landed on a machine down below and only suffered a broken leg. Could have been a lot worse. But.........the whole reason for this story is. That new salesman with his white shoes called me the next morning and said he quit. :D

Why he quit, I'll never know. I had a lot of fun on that job. The only reason I left was because the owner died and his wife sold the company.

[Plymouthy Adams]

clean shop is the product of:

1 a sick mind

2 an idle shop

[Norm's Coupe]

That's not what your OSHA signs say. They say.

"A clean shop is a safe shop".

Then there are:

A clean body is next to godliness. So a clean shop must be too.

AND:

A clean home is a happy home. So a clean shop must also be a happy shop.

Then there are these sayings:

A messy work place promotes a messy job.

A messy disorganized work place means the person is also disorganized.

A messy car car indicates a persons personality.

A house with a messy cluttered yard usually indicates the way the house looks inside.

And, there are many more like these sayings.

[Don Coatney]

Norm;

You forgot one!

Those making posting such as you made are few cards short of a full deck:D

[Norm's Coupe]

Don,

That does not matter. I don't play cards anyway so I don't need a full deck.

[radioguy7]

Or....that an old koot has nothing better to do than sit and post on this forum all day long!

[Young Ed]

I thought I was the only one who saw that.

I always thought it was one toy short of a happy meal

[BobT-47P15]

Lots of those sayings out there...............