fireman_033 Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 Well I went to the local parts store today to order an engine gasket set for my 47 p-15 the book listed an engine number break. When I looked at the engine for the number it looked odd to me so I searched for engine number ID and found a link to this http://www.t137.com/registry/help/otherengines/otherengines.php and my ID does not look like any of these it is DAP 14148-1 Thanks in advance for any help. Scott Quote
fireman_033 Posted February 13, 2009 Author Report Posted February 13, 2009 I just went out in the daylight and checked the engine over. On the pass side I found a long tag that said chrysler industrial engine. With the manifolds and inner fender in the way I could not read all the numbers the paint was gone and the faint reflection was all I could read on the tag. There are numbers but could not read them at this time. Scott Quote
claybill Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 hey scott....bill here...hope those brake parts come in handy..and you can make some sense out of them.. QYESTION about your industrial motor........to my knowledge..ALL the ply etc flatheads took the same gasket set...however..there are 2 engine sizes..plymouth dodge took the 23-1/2 in long motor and chrysler used a 25in long motor....did you ever measure the length of the head on your motor.? just good to od so for reference. bill Quote
greg g Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 Except for internal parts the 23 and or 25 inch blocks all took the same gasket sets. within the series. So that would be you biggest indicator. Just the info that its an industrial and the lenght of the block should get you whet you need. once you establish the engine lenght, you can determin the displacement by measuring the stroke. You can do this through the access to the piston provided byt the pipe plug located in the head above #6. Should be a square headed thing in the proximity of the spark plug. Remove it and insert a length of stiff wire about 7 inches long into the hole. The wire will ride on the piston. remove the coil wire so the car won't start and then crank the engine over through the pistons travel. You can then measure the travel of the wire to establablish the lenght of stroke. on a 25 inch long engine a 4 1/2 inch stroke = 251 cubic inch, 4 3/4 equals 265 cubic inch. On a 23 inch block 4 3/8 = 218, 4 5/8 =230. Since its in a Plymouth, it is likely a short block unless some one modified the radiator placemet and or odified the front crossmember to clear the crak pulley/damper. Quote
Young Ed Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 Not to bring it up again but remember depending your head/water pump bypass situation you might require a different head gasket. Quote
fireman_033 Posted February 13, 2009 Author Report Posted February 13, 2009 Just measured the head it is 23 in will measure the stroke in better weather. Thanks Scott Quote
fireman_033 Posted February 13, 2009 Author Report Posted February 13, 2009 Well went out this evening and removed the plug in the head and it is solid under the plug. The hole is only bout 1/8 inch deep or so and I took a razor knife and scraped around in there and it felt like solid metal!!!!!!!!??????????? whatsupwitthat????? Scott Quote
Don Coatney Posted February 14, 2009 Report Posted February 14, 2009 Well went out this evening and removed the plug in the head and it is solid under the plug. The hole is only bout 1/8 inch deep or so and I took a razor knife and scraped around in there and it felt like solid metal!!!!!!!!??????????? whatsupwitthat????? Scott Carbon build-up in the combustion chamber. You should be able to open the hole with an ice pick or other small punch. Quote
fireman_033 Posted February 14, 2009 Author Report Posted February 14, 2009 Ok dug what looked like dirt dobber nest out of the hole and measured 4 3/8 looks like I have a chrysler industrial 218 thanks for the help. Scott Quote
tinlizzy Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 I just bought a dodge panel truck 49 model and it has a chrysler engine. The radiator was moved forward and new holes drilled in cross member to mount the engine which was switched over to 12 volts. Motor number is C38 189050 I think this is a 46/48 engine and it is 25". The motor has about 3000 miles on the engine and the tranny was rebuilt also, new tires, new master cyclinder, 2 exta fenders, extra hood and new starter with new tires on 15" rims. I think I got a deal for 650 bucks. The body is pretty bad with lot of cancer. I intend to use the parts in my 48 pilot house pickup. Any idea what the cubic inches could be on the engine, it has spitefire on the head? Will have some extra parts once I get started. Lee Quote
Don Coatney Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 Any idea what the cubic inches could be on the engine, it has spitefire on the head? Will have some extra parts once I get started. Lee I am not home and away from my books but if it is a 46-48 Crashler engine then it is a 251CI same as I have in my P-15. Quote
fireman_033 Posted February 17, 2009 Author Report Posted February 17, 2009 Lee according to http://www.secondchancegarage.com/public/572.cfm it is a 251 by the c38 designation. Scott Quote
tinlizzy Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 Thanks guys. I figured if I put it up here you'd have the answer. Don what kinda paint did you use on your engine. I noticed that my engine has telltale blue paint from the rebuilder. thanks again Lee Quote
Don Coatney Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 Thanks guys. I figured if I put it up here you'd have the answer.Don what kinda paint did you use on your engine. I noticed that my engine has telltale blue paint from the rebuilder. thanks again Lee I used Mopar blue rattle cans. Quote
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