Shooting range OT

[Johnny S]

Hi All, I was just wondering how many ( if any ) are into Cowboy Action Shooting? I was in it for quite a while, I haven't shot in a few years though. Tony C

Tony, I'm current with S.A.S.S. (Single Action Shooting Society) and an active Cowboy Action Shooting competitor here in Colorado. I've been at it for the last 4 years or so and have been into shooting games of one sort or another for the last 35 years.

.45 Colts - Single Action Ruger Vaquero's revolvers

.45 Colts - 1894 Marlin lever action rifle - modern production

.38/.357 - 1873 Winchester - made by Uberti ... distributed by Cimarron.

12 gauge - Model 97 Winchester, Model 1887 Winchester, and a side-by-side hammer gun (depends on how I'm feelin' that day)

Alias ..... Mongo Colorado

[Normspeed]

Jeez Don, that thing is gorgeous! Has the scabbard ring too. Mine's a plain Jane but I did recently score a cool scabbard for it. Moving to New Mexico soon, so I'll need one.. I guess... for a horse, a 4wheeler, or my Honda Shadow:p

[Tony Cipponeri]

Hi Mongo Colorado, I am Butch Cavechee, The Itaian Butch Cassidy. I am SASS # 20. I haven't shot since the last End Of Trail, they had out here.

45 Rugers (modern)

1866 Uberti Yellow Boy in 45

16 gauge Marlin ( now they outlawed it )

16 gauge Winchester 97

My wife shot too she was Lilly White #320

Tony C

[Johnny S]

I am SASS # 20. My wife shot too she was Lilly White #320

Tony C

So, that would put you and the Mrs. right in the mix of the "Wild Bunch" .... yes?

[Ed Griffin]

Don, no reason to feel stupid. Very nice rifle you have there, reproduction or not. I've wanted a Henry and a Sharps for a long time. Maybe down the road.

You guys know who would be interested in this type of Cowboy Action Shooter holsters and belt?

1863 Colt contract musket (orig.) .58 cal.

1863 Colt single action pistol repro. by Pietti .44 cal.

CMC repro. boot pistol .44 cal

Phil. single shot pistol repro. .45 cal., another one I'm not sure of, wall hanger repro.

Single shot Mtn Howizter cannon, rifled, 12 inch barrell, made in Spain .58 cal

High Standard "Sport King" .22 cal

Sold all the shotguns since dont hunt anymore.

[Johnny S]

Nice lookin' rig Ed. Are they set up for Colts or Rugers? What waist sizes will they fit?

[Tony Cipponeri]

So, that would put you and the Mrs. right in the mix of the "Wild Bunch" .... yes?

Well yeah we knew them well, but not well enough. They were great guys, until it started to make them money, some of them changed then. I don't know any of the newer ones. Tony C

[Tony Cipponeri]

Wow, that is a nice looking rig Ed Old Roy Rogers would have liked that one he was a Mason. Tony C

[Don Coatney]

The stories of the wild west are just that .... largely stories. Gunfights generally weren't really "fights" at all in most cases and not everyone even had a gun let alone knew how to use it.

This one is more than a story. My great uncle George Combe Coatney (misspelled Courtney in this article) won this gunfight. He was also in a few more gunfights and took a bullet to the lung. He died in California in the late 1800's.

[Plymouthy Adams]

though your relative may have died later, in this case having a gun at hand proved to have saved his life..note this did not take place in a saloon..that is why you can pack a gun into Walmart but not the bar down the street yet today..shopping is ever more dangerous...

[Ed Griffin]

Thanks guys, I thought it was very ornate myself. Looks like a lot of work was put into it. Yeah Ol Roy is the type of person I need to find who would be interested in it.

Johnny, no idea what it's set up for. I put my Colt Army .44 in it awhile back and the end sticks out about an inch or two. Most likely a 1860's Colt police pistol would fit abt. right but as to which make pistols, no idea. I need to see if the gun shop can try the fit of a cartridge in the back to see what size caliber works in the leather. I cant get to it at the moment but when I tried it on there were still holes on both ends and my waist is 38/39 and sometimes 40

Don, you have got to be one of the luckiest men alive with all of that documented family history. It never cease's to amaze me the family item's you present on here. Always a pleasure reading the articles and letters.

[Tony Cipponeri]

Ole G, C, was a tough old bird, taken one in the thigh, and returning fire. That is awesome, double what Ed said about your family history. Tony C

[Don Coatney]

One lung, one eye, and one ear...

[Plymouthy Adams]

Don..your relative reminds me of the guy who went to the doctor because his arm was broken in 7 places...the doctor told him to stay out of them places..

[Johnny S]

One comment .... one question.

Comment. My goodness Don ..... I see where you get your moxie. There's a spirit in those words from the past and they help tell us a little about you today! Just stay away from sharp objects and guns!

Question. How did you manage to save all of this historic family material? Somebody had an eye out for this stuff in your family or was just a huge pack rat! It has been so good of you to share some of it.

[Don Coatney]

Johnny;

I have moxie? What is that and what is the cure? Is it terminal?

My family has never thrown anything out. There were two old steamer trunks loaded with stuff that my father moved several times and stored them in the attic of the last house he lived in. I bought his house after he died and sold a lot of stuff but kept the trunks. I moved them from Ohio to Pennsylvania, New York State, and California before I had any interest in opening them. Once I did open them I spent several years reading what I found. I have sence moved this collection to Tennessee. I have identified a museum in Indiana where my family lived in the 1800's and the museum will eventially get this collection.

Follow these links for more.

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~inscott/Coatney.html

http://forneyclarkgenealogy.com/

http://forneyclarkgenealogy.com/acknowledge.php

[knuckleharley]

If you carry that in the car all the time' date=' what happens if someone breaks into your car while you are in a store shopping? Thief finds the weapon, waits for you to return to the car, then uses that weapon against you to rob you. Now, if the weapon wasn't in the car, he may not have a weapon to do that with. He would just take whatever is in the car and leave. Or.........if he just took the weapon and left, that's one more weapon on the street that can be used by the criminal, and maybe kill someone with your weapon.<<

I eliminate that possibility by carrying my 44 Special with me.

>>Don't get me wrong, I'm not against anyone owning a weapon. I just don't see a need to carry one around, unless going to target practice or hunting. <<

In that case you shouldn't carry one.

>> The only other reason may be for someone who carries a lot of cash in the course of operating their business. <<

You are right,of course. My life and health are meaningless and worthless. If only I had some money to protect!

>>Years ago everyone carried guns. <<

Yes they did,and I still do.

>> Then they also used them to settle arguments in the wild wild west.<<

Gunfights were rarer in the "wild,wild west" than they are in Chicago,East St.Louis,New Orleans,DC,Detroit,and many other cities today.

>>Eventually, they came out with laws against carrying a weapon to stop the hot heads from having shootouts.<<

No,they did that so the sheriff could control the riff raff and better protect the wealthy and privledged.

>> Do we really want to return to the days of the wild wild west <<

Yes. It would be a lot more peaceful.

>>when people settled their differences with weapons. Then having bullets flying around hitting innocent bystanders? <<

Yeah,good thing that doesn't happen now,right?

BTW,you DO know that in EVERY state that has initiated a concealed weapon carry law that violent crime has dropped,right?

>>Like I said, I'm not against anyone having a right to own a gun. <<

That's nice and I appreciate the sentiment,but my rights are not dependent on your or anyone else's approval.

>> Just not sold on the idea that everyone should be allowed to carry them around.[/quote']<<

That's ok,you don't have to be.

[knuckleharley]

Wow! >>>>If I could find one in good shape I'd like to get an M14. That's what we had in Viet Nam before they went to M16 (which I never liked).<<

You can buy the civilian version (M1A) considerably cheaper than a M-14. The main difference is the civilian version doesn't have the lug or selector switch for full-auto fire.

[Dennis Hemingway]

Wow, that is a nice looking rig Ed Old Roy Rogers would have liked that one he was a Mason. Tony C

Tony, We went to look at a horse in Oro Grande years ago, and Roy owned the ranch next door, He came over and offered me a brew and we talked while Kathy and our horse trainer looked at the horse. He took me to the ranch house and showed me some of his collection that was not in their museum. We ended up killing a few brews that day. (We didn't buy the horse)

Dennis:D

[Johnny S]

Johnny;

I have moxie? What is that and what is the cure? Is it terminal?

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Well Don .... several options here .... I'm suggesting the first three apply but I may be wrong .... maybe the next two major options fit better. The good news is that I don't see it as a disease at all ..... although it may cause discomfort at times when misunderstood in public places .... like bars and football games. It can be a very good thing in times of war although too much can be dangerous to the person who is exhibiting same.

1. mox·ie (mks)

n. Slang

1. The ability to face difficulty with spirit and courage.

2. Aggressive energy; initiative: "His prose has moxie, though it rushes and stumbles from a pent-up surge" Patricia Hampl.

3. Skill; know-how.

OR:

The origin of the name Moxie is unclear, but two possible theories lend insight to the question. The name is most likely a Native American word meaning either "wintergreen" (one of the drink's ingredients) or "black water" (thought to be the reasoning for Moxie Falls, Moxie Bog, etc.) It is also possible the word is related to moxa, a type of mugwort burned to relieve various ailments and increase energy as used in East Asian medicine, and in turn would come from the Japanese word for the herb mogusa.

OR:

Moxie was created in 1876 by Dr. Augustin Thompson formerly of Union, Maine, while working for the Ayer Drug Company in Lowell, Massachusetts. Accordingly, Moxie stands today as Maine's state beverage. Moxie was first marketed as a patent medicine in Lowell, Massachusetts, under the product name “Moxie Nerve Food." [1] From 1928 through 1953 Moxie was bottled at 74 Heath St. in the Jamaica Plain section of Boston, Massachusetts. The building, known as Moxieland,[2] featured an advertisement on the roof along with an arrow pointing in the direction of Logan Airport.[3] Moxie was said to cure ailments ranging from softening of the brain to “loss of manhood.” In 1884, it was sold in carbonated form and merchandised as an invigorating drink, which claimed to endow the drinker with “spunk”.[4] In the early phase of its life as a recreational soft drink, Moxie is said to have been kept handy by bartenders to give to customers who were too drunk to be given any more alcohol. This story may be apocryphal, however, inspired by Moxie's noted aftertaste, which many people find unpleasantly strong.

[Tony Cipponeri]

Tony, We went to look at a horse in Oro Grande years ago, and Roy owned the ranch next door, He came over and offered me a brew and we talked while Kathy and our horse trainer looked at the horse. He took me to the ranch house and showed me some of his collection that was not in their museum. We ended up killing a few brews that day. (We didn't buy the horse)

Dennis:D

I had the honor of helping to dig Roy's grave, and I was one of eight guys that was the Honor Guard. We walked in front of the horse drawn hearse, the last mile or so to the his grave site. It was a great honor. Tony C