what about v12 flathead power?

[DEADMAN RUNNING]

i work at a local scrap yard and the price being up right now @ $200.00/ton alot of interesting junk comes in. we had someone bring in 2 old fire trucks. ones is a 53 Seagrave pumper. the truck is nearly complete. when i opened the hood i could'nt believe my eyes.....a very large flathead v12!!! at first i thought v12 then after counting the 24 plugs i leapt to la la land with the belief it might be a V24....lol well..just 2 plugs per cyl and dual distributors 4 coils...apparently they don't wont them to quit in the middle of a fire...lol "would this engine be worthy of salvage...as it seems locked up...would it make a decent Rat Rod engine?"

[Don Coatney]

Quick search shows the engine to be a Pierce Arrow. Follow the link below.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=117937

[Uncle-Pekka]

Please, please Mr. Deadman,

Post us some photos of the V12, also of the Seagrave truck!

You got to be kidding, asking "would it be worth to save..."

I would love one in my garage, one in the living room and one running a rod...

EDIT:

Does the pumper look anything like this one:

By modilisti

[62rebelP23]

i would love to catch one for sale, just to get the running gear. i spent a couple of hours one Saturday checking out German WW1 and WW2 aircraft engines online... they have an inverted vee V8 that was used in the Feiseler Storch observation plane. now THAT would be cool.

[martybose]

So you like trick flatheads? How about a 1914 LaFrance roadster, built in England maybe 15 years ago from a LaFrance fire engine frame (complete with a BIG chain drive to the rear wheels) that has a monstrous 6 cylinder flathead gas motor, with no less than 4 sparkplugs per cylinder, two each from a dual plug distributor and the other two from a dual plug magneto! It is driven on public roads in California during vintage Mille Miglia-type events.

Marty

[greg g]

A couple years ago we had a local SPAAMFAA muster(Society for the Preservation and Appreciation of Antique Motor Fire Apparatus in America)

Pert of the display was several of the various pieces of equipment running their pumps, pulling water from a river and spray their hoses. I took notice of the engines in the trucks and also noticed the multiple spark plugs on teh cylinders. In duscussing the equipment with some of the members, it was noted that the renduncy provided for the assurance of engine performance over the long and gruelling assignments at fire scenes. You did not want the engine running the pumps fouling out and stalling.

According to the website, were are having anouther this summer. Good event to visit if ever it comes to your area.

http://www.spaamfaa.org/

[DEADMAN RUNNING]

that depends on ur interpritation on the picks i took...lol i think the tires....that are brand new...are worth the cost of the scrap?

[PatS....]

http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/video_player.shtml?vid=187714

[falconvan]

Don't let that beast get away! Imagine a T bucket built around that. Store until I can talk my wife into letting me buy it from you! Seriously, that's a rare chance to find something like that. Even if you don't use it, I'm sure you could make a decent profit from it.

[Uncle-Pekka]

Thanks for sharing the story & great pictures with us Rod!

It is one mean beast you got down there.

Just viewed the Jay Leno clip, posted by Pat...Of course it would be a HUGE job to get it running again, but still I cannot help dreaming the huge potential this Seagrave has.

At least the engine and the gauges should be saved.

I agree with Falcon, that you surely will get back what you have to pay for the V12 when introducing it at HAMB for instance...

Good luck!

Cheers,

Pekka