Swapping an A833 OD into a 1946 WD-15

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Good to see another trans swap thread. Unless I've missed them, don't recall seeing any A833 swaps posted in detail here, from start to finish, other than the attempt by 55Fargo (if that's who I think it is - his screen name was always changing)....several years ago. It was portrayed as more of a spite swap (lol) so not sure if it was a success..... 

 

What are the gear ratios in this 833 and what overall ratios will they give you when combined with the rear end?

 

 

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3 hours ago, John-T-53 said:

Good to see another trans swap thread. Unless I've missed them, don't recall seeing any A833 swaps posted in detail here, from start to finish, other than the attempt by 55Fargo (if that's who I think it is - his screen name was always changing)....several years ago. It was portrayed as more of a spite swap (lol) so not sure if it was a success..... 

 

What are the gear ratios in this 833 and what overall ratios will they give you when combined with the rear end?

 

 

I can't remember first or second, but third is 1:1, and overdrive is around 0.73 I think.

 

I bought after market linkage since the shifter I bought on ebay didn't come with rods. Not quite the same as I had to heat and bend a couple to fit correctly. In the middle of that I ended up with a reverse H pattern. First is up and to the right, and you work right to left across the pattern instead of left to right. Kind of an anti-theft feature.

 

Here's a picture of my setup during mock up. A previous owner in the 60s must have pulled the original engine and transmission out of a larger truck because the flywheel was a different size, the adaptor plate from AoK required some massaging to fit the 9/16 bolts for the bell housing. Aside from that, it was a pretty simple swap and drives well. I can cruise the highway at 65 with this transmission and the Ford nine inch with 3.73 gears. 

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Forgot to add that a new generic speedometer cable from O'Reilly's fit perfect with the transmission and stock speedometer. It reads 5 mph slow. I was happy with that given the screwball drivetrain I came up with.

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On 7/2/2024 at 10:45 AM, lostviking said:

The B4C is def a different truck, but do you have any pictures showing where the shifter comes up into the cab? I'm planning around that, but won't know for sure until I get the trans into the truck. Waiting on my clutch and time.

Thanks for the speedo cable information. I hadn't even looked at the end of mine to see if it fits.

Here are a few views of where it lines up. I cut a little too much, but nothing horrible.

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On 7/6/2024 at 8:36 PM, nkeiser said:

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On 7/13/2024 at 8:16 PM, lostviking said:

What did you do to get the throw out bearing issue solved. Mine look to need a sleeve on my input bearing retainer collar to match the ID of the throw out bearing.

 

I've also been taking a few dimension to see where splines, IBR collar ends and the overall length. There are a few differences. One is that the overall length, from the face of the AoK adapter plate to the nose (where the input shaft goes into the pilot bearing) is 1/2 inch longer than the face of the tranny to the same point on my old 3 spd. I need to get under the truck and measure depth of the pilot bearing bore, and the distance from the face of the bell housing to the clutch splines and the location of the throw out bearing.

 

All those should be exactly the same for my truck as was for yours. How did it all work for you? There have been several threads/blogs on here, but none of them goes over all the real details. That's what I'm trying to do here, give people all the information.

 

Thanks.

I used a brass/bronze bushing to get the throw out bearing to fit. I can't remember where or what material it was. I do remember that it was a little long, so I had to cut it to length. The info on the sleeve may have been in a blog post on this site.

 

I think for overall shaft length and pilot bearing engagement, I didn't have to add any shims. The thickness of the adaptor plate did the trick.

 

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