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Hello All, this is my first post on the forum so bare with me. 

 

some backstory: I recently got my late grandfathers 1936 dodge D2 running for the first time in about 35 years or so. We've noticed that the car likes to shake/rattle between about 25 and 45 mph and smooths back out once you hit about 50 or so. we're trying to figure out what might be causing the problem, could it be the brakes? Steering? Wheels/Tires? Motor Mounts? any help would be greatly appreciated, if you have any other questions please feel free to ask.

 

thanks, Jeremy

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How old are the tires? How long was it parked sitting on those tires? Have the wheels and tires been balanced?

 

Is there any play in the steering components or suspension? Do the shocks need fluid? (I forget when they transitioned to modern "airplane style" shocks, so the last might not be appropriate to check on your car.)

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52 minutes ago, TodFitch said:

How old are the tires? How long was it parked sitting on those tires? Have the wheels and tires been balanced?

 

Is there any play in the steering components or suspension? Do the shocks need fluid? (I forget when they transitioned to modern "airplane style" shocks, so the last might not be appropriate to check on your car.)

not sure on the age of the tires, they have definitely been on the car for a long time, the car was kept on jack stands while it was stored, most recent service sticker in the car shows 1988. steering and suspension feel good so I bet it is the tires.

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If your tires are the bias ply tires they will follow every little crack in the road.  Even if the last sticker shows 1988 it is definitely time for new tires. so you might have 26 year old tires that have dry rot and a whole host of other issues.  If just trying to get the car road worthy again and just going around the block then you might be fine but nt out on any major roads.

 

Looks as if you have a tire lift in the garage. but the car up off the ground and hand spin the tire looking for any sign of the tires wobbleing. Check the king pins to see if any movement also entire front suspension, are the lug nut/bolt all secure one could be loose, check the wheel bearings, Is there oil in the steering box. start at one point and then use a checklist to keep track of what you looked at. You will find the issue but it takes time.  Get the car running engine wise then you have that knock out of any issues.

 

Keep reporting on what you have done so we can all have some input to help advise you.

According to my MoPar shock catalog in 1937 they started using the airplane style shocks.

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Rich Hartung

desoto1939@aol.com

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1 hour ago, desoto1939 said:

If your tires are the bias ply tires they will follow every little crack in the road.  Even if the last sticker shows 1988 it is definitely time for new tires. so you might have 26 year old tires that have dry rot and a whole host of other issues.  If just trying to get the car road worthy again and just going around the block then you might be fine but nt out on any major roads.

 

Looks as if you have a tire lift in the garage. but the car up off the ground and hand spin the tire looking for any sign of the tires wobbleing. Check the king pins to see if any movement also entire front suspension, are the lug nut/bolt all secure one could be loose, check the wheel bearings, Is there oil in the steering box. start at one point and then use a checklist to keep track of what you looked at. You will find the issue but it takes time.  Get the car running engine wise then you have that knock out of any issues.

 

Keep reporting on what you have done so we can all have some input to help advise you.

According to my MoPar shock catalog in 1937 they started using the airplane style shocks.

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Rich Hartung

desoto1939@aol.com

What do I look for on the shocks? What makes them different from the later shocks?

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Modern shocks are like a piston style. the older lovejoy shocks have an arm that connects to a reserviour and these can be rebuilt but are not cheap.  Hope you have the modern airplance style that bolt through a loop at the top and the bottom.

This is a modern shock or airplane style

 

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Lovejoy or rotary lever shock. Very hard to find and expensive to rebuild

 

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Rich Hartung

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Had a '36 years ago and it had the lever shocks up front.

 

A good family story though. Congrats to you for getting it mobile again after all this time. Welcome to the forum!! There are a number of good threads on the basics here. Fuel system, brakes, steering, tuning, wiring etc. All will be important to have covered. Member @keithb7 has some good u tube videos on some of these basics. You obviously have some abilities to get this far. A Workshop Manual for your car is more than handy too. Am sure more pictures and some more of this cars story would be well received here...

Look forward to learning more!!

 

And this post would do better on the main forum page to get a better response...

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