Woody Branham Posted July 19, 2007 Report Posted July 19, 2007 I want to test the starter on my p11 without pulling it. Using jumpers. what do I connect to where bypassing the ignition switch? Woody Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted July 19, 2007 Report Posted July 19, 2007 Just stick a screwdriver between the two post on the starter. Starter should turn over. Quote
Don Coatney Posted July 19, 2007 Report Posted July 19, 2007 Just stick a screwdriver between the two post on the starter. Starter should turn over. Norm; My starter only has one "post"? Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted July 19, 2007 Report Posted July 19, 2007 Norm;My starter only has one "post"? Oops, you got short changed. Forgot, the solenoid isn't in the starter on our cars. In that case, just jump the solenoid and he'll get the same results. Another way is to hook it up to one of these. Quote
anthonyb Posted July 19, 2007 Report Posted July 19, 2007 Woody, If it's an original 41 starter, just push the large lever on top of the starter until it depresses the button switch on top of the starter. The ignition has nothing to do with the starter itself. The ignition switch just provides power to the coil. If your starter looks like the one Don posted, I can't help you with it. Quote
1948Skip Posted July 19, 2007 Report Posted July 19, 2007 Norm's Coupe, I like your engine analyzer. I have a Sears that I purchased back in the early Sixties. Works good and comes in handy when working on my P-15. Skip Quote
greg g Posted July 19, 2007 Report Posted July 19, 2007 Well on my 46, the starter will not engage without have the key in the on position. You can press the button till the cows come home. I don't know about the earlier ones. but usually if you power the starter, and ground to the block it will spin it may not engage if the drive is manual where you need to push it down with your foot. So using jumper cables you would go positive to engine block, negative to post on starter or to the end of the battery cable attached to the starter. Quote
Reg Evans Posted July 19, 2007 Report Posted July 19, 2007 If all is stock on your 41 you can remove this manual switch on top of the starter and attach a jumper cable from the neg battery terminal to the contact on the starter. If it spins the manual switch is at fault. If not the starter is. Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted July 19, 2007 Report Posted July 19, 2007 Norm's Coupe,I like your engine analyzer. I have a Sears that I purchased back in the early Sixties. Works good and comes in handy when working on my P-15. Skip I like them too. Helps eliminate a lot of guess work. Before I got this one I only had one that worked on 12 volts. Found the Sears Penske on Ebay a few years ago. Works on 6 or 12 volts. Got it for $17 including the shipping. Was able to get a copy of the instruction booklet from a POC member here in Wisconsin (thanks again Ken). Works great. Quote
Woody Branham Posted July 20, 2007 Author Report Posted July 20, 2007 My starter on the p11 is original. There is no battery or cables on it. I was thinking about using jumper cables on it just to see if it turns. Positive ground of course, Do I attach the negative to the starter and the positive to ground??? Quote
anthonyb Posted July 20, 2007 Report Posted July 20, 2007 The Negative cable goes to the stud on the back of the switch that Reg posted and the Positive goes to ground. Depress that switch and you should be off and running (presuming the starter is good). Quote
Woody Branham Posted July 20, 2007 Author Report Posted July 20, 2007 Thanks, I will try this weekend. Quote
Reg Evans Posted July 20, 2007 Report Posted July 20, 2007 Wait !!!! Over time the contact on the manual switch gets so dirty or so pitted that it doesn't complete the circuit any more. If you bypass that switch and make direct contact with the copper contact under that switch you'll know if the starter motor is still functioning. The Negative cable goes to the stud on the back of the switch that Reg posted and the Positive goes to ground. Depress that switch and you should be off and running (presuming the starter is good). Quote
Woody Branham Posted July 20, 2007 Author Report Posted July 20, 2007 Switch is already off, I picked up another one onebay recently Quote
Woody Branham Posted July 22, 2007 Author Report Posted July 22, 2007 Connected the jumpers as mentioned. Starter whurrs but does not turn the engine. I can't get to the upper bolt to yank it out. Can't find my S-shaped 5/8 wrench that I used on my DeSoto. My 5/8 box wrench is not long enough and not enouhg room and to much in the way to lock another to it. Any suggestions?????? Woody Quote
Jim Yergin Posted July 23, 2007 Report Posted July 23, 2007 Woody, The starter on my '41 P12 has to be manually engaged (foot pedal) in order to turn over the engine. Otherwise, if you just make the electrical connection like you did, the starter will only spin but not engage the engine. Jim Yergin Quote
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