JDaniel64 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) Several people have probably torn down a few older engines to discover whitish-brown deposits on the valves, cylinder head, pistons, and inside exhaust manifolds . Some of the engines I have torn down... a '49 ford V8, '49 dodge I6, '67 ford 352 V8, and yesterday a '68 ford 289 V8 have all shown this cement-like stuff. Today I decided to take a sample from my freshly dis-assembled 289 and test it (for those interested, the testing machine was a Bruker XRF): Sample locations include exhaust valves, general combustion chamber, and piston tops (not shown): Here is a picture of the results and sample used: 70.8% of the sample was lead, so (70.8/77.2)*100 = 91.7% of the powder was lead based compounds...probably most in the oxide/carbonate form. Interesting to see Bromine and Chlorine as the next most prevalent components in the analysis, since they were used as lead scavenging agents (1,2-Dibromomethane & 1,2- Dichloromethane) in leaded fuel. Might be a good thing to wear a dust mask while cleaning vintage engine parts that were in use during TEL's heyday. Just if anyone had been wondering about the stuff, I was sure curious about it. Edited August 27, 2014 by JDaniel64 2 Quote
Niel Hoback Posted August 26, 2014 Report Posted August 26, 2014 Wow! Thanks, I think we all needed to see that. Quote
TodFitch Posted August 27, 2014 Report Posted August 27, 2014 Yep. Leaded gasoline was nasty stuff. And to keep the lead deposits to a minimum they used some nasty stuff to scavenge it. I know the first engine I maintained after non-leaded fuel became the standard impressed me on how long the plugs lasted, how much less gray deposit I found in the valve galleries, etc. Converted me to wanting to use unleaded gas for everything. Which is one reason I have such a negative reaction now, decades later, when someone is adamant about finding lead additive for gasoline. Quote
Don Coatney Posted August 27, 2014 Report Posted August 27, 2014 For a very interesting article follow the link below. Seems Thomas Midgley JR. was hell bent on destructive inventions that eventually cost him his life by strangulation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Midgley,_Jr. 2 Quote
BigDaddyO Posted August 27, 2014 Report Posted August 27, 2014 Hell of a legacy; Midgley "had more (negative) impact on the atmosphere than any other single organism in Earth's history." Quote
BigDaddyO Posted August 27, 2014 Report Posted August 27, 2014 (edited) There was a TV show that did a history lesson on Mr Midgley a while back. I can't find it but it was on some dark sounding TV series and it was very informative. Even if I could find it, I can't post a link like Don and all you cool guy's can. Edited August 29, 2014 by BigDaddyO Quote
BigDaddyO Posted August 27, 2014 Report Posted August 27, 2014 (edited) I also cant delete some stuff either, like that last attached file...sorry about the title of that last post/link. Thanks Tod Edited August 29, 2014 by BigDaddyO Quote
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