5 Speed Tranny

[Moose1947P15]

I am working on my 1947 P15 SD, Flathead 6, 3 speed. My first MOPAR. Am working with

DON'S SPEED SHOP. Newington,CT.

Have rebuilt the engine and would like to/need to put a 5 speed behind the flathead. We think with the gears that are in it,it should cruise at 65 or 70 with the 5 speed instead of 45 with the 3 speed. Have heard that a Ford 5 speed from 

a 89-93 ranger will bolt up to the original bell housing, just need to drill one or two new bolt holes.Anyone know about this or an other 5 speed I could use.  After that I want to put an aluminum head with two carbs. Don modified flathead 6's back in the '50 and beat everything around. So I want to stay with the 6.

Thanks for the help.

Fran

[TodFitch]

Haven't got a clue about the five speed, but a stock P15 should be able to cruise at 65 with its original three speed, not 45.

[deathbound]

Check out this thread:http://p15-d24.com/topic/17737-5-speed-not-t5/

 

Just notice you joined today....welcome to the forum. Check the search function for just about anything you will run into....it's probably been discussed. Don't forget the pics of your car(s)!

Edited December 17, 2013 by deathbound

[Don Coatney]

Sounds to me like you and Dons speed shop (if he is the "we" you mention) have not done your homework but go ahead and report back how all this bolt up stuff works.

[Robert Horne]

I have been real happy with my TK5 Ford Ranger 5 speed install.

These TK5s are from 1983 to 1987 Rangers...

The first gear is a little low with a 3.7 rearend, but the

4th and 5th gears make my Coupe very easy to drive........

With only about 80hp, the 5 speed is real good....

[40desoto]

1983-1987 chevy S10 is was what im using on my '40. It has shifter at the most forward position than other tremec 5 speeds and these years also use a mechanical speedometer.

Paul Curtis sells an adapter kit at around $375 that includes a mounting adapter, clutch, and extended oilite bushing to adapt the shorter transmission shaft. Another option is to do what Don Coatney did and modify your bellhousing yourself. He seems willing to help out if any questions. Dont tell him I said so but ask him to please show you his great detail pictures of his 5 speed transplant.

Here is the link to the adapter

https://home.comcast.net/~pjplymouth/t5.html

[Robert Horne]

Here is the angle iron adapter I made for the 2 bottom bolts,

and bored two holes for the top 2 trans bolts.

Plymouth pressure plate, & throw out bearing,

Ranger clutch disc.

[40desoto]

Robert, what transmission are you using?  I could of sworn that those two top mounting bolts sat higher.  Did you modify the mounting holes on the tranny?

Did you expand the bellhousing opening so the tranny shaft bearing cover will fit or did you reduce the cover?

[Moose1947P15]

Thanks everyone for the welcome and information. I will get pictures as soon as I figure out 

how to upload them from my Phone.

Moose

[Robert Horne]

Robert, what transmission are you using?  I could of sworn that those two top mounting bolts sat higher.  Did you modify the mounting holes on the tranny?

Did you expand the bellhousing opening so the tranny shaft bearing cover will fit or did you reduce the cover?

My trans is a 1986 or 87 TKG Toyo Kogyo Ranger.

The bell was bored for the top mounting bolts, to match the trans holes.

The tranny front cover was shaved about 1/16 inch to match the bell opening.

[40desoto]

Thank You Robert.  It seems like  a very simple install compared to that of a T5 transmission but the shifter seems to sit pretty far back.  Im not sure if this will work for me since Im only 5 7' and dont think my legs will reach my pedals if I have to move the seat that far back to reach the shifter. 

You do have the same Bellhousing that I plan on using on mine.  That bellhousing does not have enough meat on the top to allow you to shave off enough to get the bearing retainer cover from a T5 transmission to fit into.

Don Coatney did it but I noticed that the bellhousing he is using either has more meat on the top of the opening or the hole on his bellhousing sits lower that the one on ours.

 

Thank You for the Pic!

Edited December 19, 2013 by 40desoto

[Robert Horne]

The TK5 shifter is more to the rear than the T5.

I compensated for this, by heating and bending the shifter forward,

and then bending to the rear.

I also added some length to the shifter with a steel tube I found

in my supply area(scrap pile)..............