Anyone running a large block, 12 volt, and a push button starter ?

[James_Douglas]

Hey all,

Anyone running a large block, 12 volt, and a push button starter ?

Thanks, James

[homebrewer]

James, what do you mean by lage block. I'm running 350 SBC with a 12 volts and push button starter if that helps. George

[fredsv8shop]

Yes !!

[Plymouthy Adams]

James..the starter solenoid can be easily energized by a standard square 30/40 amp relay referred to as the Bosch design...use this relay and any light duty switch taking the relay coil to ground...most of these stock pushbutton switches are in the 10 to 15 amp rated so could handle the standard starter solenoid as is...big block small block 4/6/8 has nothing to do with it..that rating will apply to the current of starter motor itself..most 6-8 cyl. engines will draw 180-240 amps of current on the starter windings...diesel and some larger high compressions can run even higher reaching 450 amp draw.

Reading more and more from your various posts now reveals a bit more insight on the condition of your cars electrical system...partial conversion, Optima battery, changing from gen to alt, changing alt from neg to pos and then eliminating control circuits for the older tranny and now upgrading that wiring for the OD you installed...I say this before you spend a lot of your money...I would ensure that my battery was in optimum condition and get the present unit doing what it is supposed to be doing. If you cannot get it to work properly with the smaller alternator which by the way is sufficient for you needs, I feel you may be installing a larger alternator and not fix your problem..but then again if your alternator is bad, even after rebuild/conversion, internal regualtors can be wishy washy, it might just be the easiest fix...you never stated what the electrical shop found but mentioned in two threads you were going to take it in for diagnostics...

[Don Coatney]

Hey all,

Anyone running a large block, 12 volt, and a push button starter ?

Thanks, James

James;

What is your real question????? I do not understand what is special about 12 volts, a long block, and a push button starter. I have all three and do not have any problems.

You mentioned that your battery is charging. What is the big deal? If your lights go dim when running all your gadgetry at a stop light either turn off some stuff or give the engine a "goose" until the stop light turns green. I think you have an imaginary problem. You will never create a perfect car in a less than perfect world.

[James_Douglas]

Fred,

Which is the make and type of the starter and Solenoid ? Part numbers would be good.

Best, James

[James_Douglas]

Tim and Don,

Last winter I almost got rear ended. The idiot stopped less than 6" from my rear. It was late, here in the city, I had the wipers going, and the fans were on full bore to clear the glass so I could see.

When I got out and looked the rear lights were visible, but with the very bright headlights out there shinning up against them I can well see how people not paying attention could miss it.

It is just not worth the thousands of dollars it would take to fix a rear-ender it to chance it anymore.

I want this thing to light up like a x-mas tree. I also like to listen to the radio when running across the city at night and in the rain.

I also would like to charge my laptop and cell when on the road.

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Many of the 46 to 56 MOPARS had the type of solenoid that is activated by ones foot and not a push button switch. I don't know all of the cars in my head, hence I asked.

What I am trying to hunt down is a starter and solenoid that is 12 volt, not a 6 volt running on a 12 volt car. Vintage Power Wagon has some, but they are for 172 tooth.

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THE BATTERY IS IN PERFECT CONDITION. I HAVE 2 AND THEY ARE BOTH FINE.

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Like I said in an earlier post, the AMP gauge problem was not doubt a problem BEFORE I did the work. Something, no doubt had a bad connection and was causing the system to draw from the battery at a slow but steady rate. As of the last week...it seems fine.

Don is correct in that I have been chasing, as far as the AMP gauge readings go. I was chasing a ghost.

The final issue is the total system capacity. Yes, I can run at night with just the lights and heater on and it will not kill the ignition.

But, I would like for the charging system to be optimal. Optimal is having a gen/Alt that can meet the total vehicle load requirement. Then I do not, not does Sondra, have to wonder if the engine is going to get killed at a stop sign on a rainy night.

For those who have not gone back into the archives. The wiring on this car is very sound as I replaced all the wires forward of the firewall last fall. All good clean splices well soldered.

Most of you, I would bet all of you, have other cars to drive. I have the Desoto and nothing else. So when I do need to use it, I need to hold it to a slightly higher standard of usability in the densely populated city I live in. Some may tell me to buy a new car, but I don’t have the heart for that.

Best, James

[bobby horne]

There are NOS 12 volt starters on ebay. The 1956 has the solenoid separate. The 56 and older on most engines go into the bell housing about 3 inch. I believe the 57 and newer and maybe the 25 inch block engine takes a different starter with a less than 3 inch going into the bell housing. My 36, 38, and 56 engine starters will swap.

[James_Douglas]

Bobby,

Thank you very much. If you get a chance, would you send post or email me a photo of the 56 starter. More specifically a shot of the solenoid. I want to see if it will clear (if it is a starter mounted SOL.)

Thanks, James

[fredsv8shop]

wil make picture of the starter tonight, my block is a industrial block and came with 12 volt starter / ignition and 12 volt generator.

Fred

[james curl]

If you are running a six volt starter on twelve volts and don't like the heavy hit when it engages you can have any good generator/starter shop convert to twelve volts and reuse your own starter with a remote twelve volt solenoid, most Fords used then up into the eighties.