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I have a P15 Club Coupe that has its rocker mouldings held on by screws as the sils have been welded at some point and the clips dissapeared. I am looking to replace the screws with correct clips. Can anyone tell me how many I need for each side & has anyone got a photo showing the correct positions?

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Good luck. There is a guy on e-bay selling 8 of them for $160. Too rich for me. I have bought used ones that just don't work. I've called people that deal in clips but they don't have them. You need to be careful because there are different sizes. I bought one set and they didn't fit - off a DeSoto or something. If you find someone who has them let me know - I'm looking too.

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I found some pictures I thought I'd share with you.post-309-0-97782800-1364765729_thumb.jpgpost-309-0-88737000-1364765873_thumb.jpgpost-309-0-97166400-1364766100_thumb.jpg

The first thing to check is the size of the clip - make sure it fits in the hole. Second - I have found the ones with the little round holes don't fit - no matter what they tell you. Third - that's what they should look like but I bought some used and they just were missing pieces and would require more work than I was prepared to invest. Good luck with your search.

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Doesn't Restoration Specialties sell these? I'm curious to know what you find because I rebuilt my rockers and currently have no slots cut in them to receive the clips. There was a thread way back when about alternatives to the stock clips. 

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I've called Restoration Specialties and while they have everything else they don't have the rocker clips. If you find any share with everyone.

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I believe that Tim Adams was considering using bolts that would go through both outer and inner rockers. I think in that case, you could fabricate something that would serve as a clip to pull the molding in tight against the body when you tightened the bolt. Maybe Tim can chime in.  

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I care not if my cars are stock fitted as long as they are solid so the above mentioned thread may make some very squeamish.   While I have replaced the bad rocker with good aftermarket steel they were not stamped for the original rocker clip.  As Joe and I had discussed this once before either in PM or phone call I mentioned drilling through the inner and outer and welding anti-crush tubes in place and making my molding brackets a bolt on from the inside rocker...new 3/8 gas line tubing is ideal for this...other means of similar modification could also be done with el brackets from the lower edge of the rocker..either way your rocker will need be solid for either approach.  One thing for certain..you will not have to damage a rocker molding with sheetmetal screws as so often is the shape folks find these in from POs...tacky tacky tacky...

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Tim, what were you thinking of using as clips in that through-bolt scenario? It would be time consuming but I suppose you could fabricate your own clips out of metal stock. Drill a hole in each one so it acts as a washer under the head of the bolt and pulls the molding into the rocker. 

Or maybe that's a stupid idea. I've got a million of them. 

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yes Joe, your mental image is on track as you will make your own clips that will slip into the molding similar to the snap over of the originals..from there it is a center line of the rocker/fender and make your holes for the anti crush sleeves..use of all thread from the hardware store will make fabricating your studs to proper length to nut on the inner rocker quick and easy..

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yes Joe, your mental image is on track as you will make your own clips that will slip into the molding similar to the snap over of the originals..from there it is a center line of the rocker/fender and make your holes for the anti crush sleeves..use of all thread from the hardware store will make fabricating your studs to proper length to nut on the inner rocker quick and easy..

 

Question? Do the 46-48 Ply,'s rocker mouldings hang below the rocker panel on the lower edge as the rockers as 49-50's do?

On my 50 4 dr. I'd guess they do at least 1/2". :confused:

 

On Tim's and Joe's idea I do not see any real problems if a very close horizontal  center line is established first. Suggest a larger tube to allow for alighment issues. Sealing holes?? Sealer?? :)

 

Another idea? Use very available trim mount style clips that just hold to the folded over edge of the trim piece as tightened with the spring type small wire to hold in position as the nut is tightened. This would require establishing the center line as before, drilling a hole thru both the outer panel and the inner panel aligned fairly level. Then open the outter to say 1/2" and the inner to same to allow for minor adjustment.

The newer type clips are Usually 1/4" course studs in this width that would need a  1/4" X 1/4" connecter female both ends to span the inner/outter rocker panels ( commonly avail. at hardware stores) Plus some all thread, use a larger flat washer( Body washer) inside to spread the load as tightened. Seal the outter hole and inner with sealer to keep moisture out.

 

That's my  2 cents. Thinking about it too for my 50 Suburban wagon if i ever get back to it !! :rolleyes:

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surely one can snap a chalk line and get it straight...it is just a common sense approach..there is never a need for a step by step with all measurements...just how hard is it....you can wait till the almost non existent clip become available at who know what ungodly price...or forge ahead.... had Joe not made the mention here I would never have done so...it is not rocket science

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surely one can snap a chalk line and get it straight...it is just a common sense approach..there is never a need for a step by step with all measurements...just how hard is it....you can wait till the almost non existent clip become available at who know what ungodly price...or forge ahead.... had Joe not made the mention here I would never have done so...it is not rocket science

 

I totally agree!

If I made too big a point of this, my only thought is to others that might not be as experieced with modififying things to make this type of modification change work!  Would not want to lead anyone astray!

 

Nothing implied  on your abilities as I've seen your projects!! :)  :)

 

Sure did not mean anything on the post to be a negative! :(

 

Best to ya all! :)

 

Doug

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I just reread my entry..I see how I came off rather sharply on this..sorry....its really not that...but often these thread just get so far out on a limb it is not funny..an idea is all that needs be dropped..how it is executed is up to the individual skill and shop tools/devices on hand to execute..I rarely but ever mention how I do things on this web unless one sends me a PM or phones me for advice..I had a disclaimer for my blog on the 51 Suburban..it is a HOW DID not a HOW TO...you may do it different..that is okay..if you disagree with me on my route that is okay also..even with that statement..I ended up disassembling the blog and removing it from viewers..they still seemed to think I was saying this was the only way..I as soon not mention as have to explain in detail.

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I just reread my entry..I see how I came off rather sharply on this..sorry....its really not that...but often these thread just get so far out on a limb it is not funny..an idea is all that needs be dropped..how it is executed is up to the individual skill and shop tools/devices on hand to execute..I rarely but ever mention how I do things on this web unless one sends me a PM or phones me for advice..I had a disclaimer for my blog on the 51 Suburban..it is a HOW DID not a HOW TO...you may do it different..that is okay..if you disagree with me on my route that is okay also..even with that statement..I ended up disassembling the blog and removing it from viewers..they still seemed to think I was saying this was the only way..I as soon not mention as have to explain in detail.

 I know you've been on this forum for WAY longer and I see what you're saying!

 

I thought I was just throwing another "idea" out there for others to pick & choose that they can choose/modify  or  wait for stock pieces their choice.  Most "regulars"  do understand experiences/ thoughts. "Newbies" often are looking for "one stop answers", :huh:

 

I appreciate all "ideas"!  I choose what i use if any. I like creating! my own!  Often the inspiration for Mine is a take off from others imputs with MY change!  Plus I "STEAL SOME"  ! WHY reinvent the wheel!!! :lol:

 

That's why I read the FORUM!!! :)

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Once upon a time......many years ago......we made some rocker trim clips by taking a piece of flat metal about 11/2 to 2 inches

wide (not super heavy, but strong enough)......cut it a length to fit into the rocker trim piece.  Then made some attaching

pieces with a flange, and pop  riveted them to the vertical part.  In other words, it was a "T" shaped item.   The horizontal tab was designed to go under the rocker panel and attach with a screw from beneath the car.  Not the correct clip, obviously, but would

work if that's all you had.  Don't know if this idea has any merit for anyone else, but it worked at the time. 

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