S10 5spd

[Young Ed]

Ok Don C I'm thinking you can chime in on this one. Finally found a reasonably priced 5spd. My main question is what kind of checks can I do before I drop some cash on this thing? I remember Don ended up getting a second and swapping twice so I'm trying to avoid that. Also if anyone has the site with all the gear ratios handy I'd like to see that too.

[Don Coatney]

Ok Don C I'm thinking you can chime in on this one. Finally found a reasonably priced 5spd. My main question is what kind of checks can I do before I drop some cash on this thing? I remember Don ended up getting a second and swapping twice so I'm trying to avoid that. Also if anyone has the site with all the gear ratios handy I'd like to see that too.

Ed;

Best pre flight on a used transmission is to make sure it spins and shifts freely by spinning the input shaft as you run it through the gears. There are several sites that list the ratios but first you must identify the transmission. There will/should be a tag bolted to the transmission with a series of numbers stamped in it such as 1352-010. Then you can go to the this link

http://www.5speeds.com/t5/

and tell what the transmission came out of. Once you know what it came out of then you can find the ratios. Rhonda might be able to help you at this link.

http://www.5speeds.com/rhonda.html

If she is no help I have a link on my puter at home and will post it.

[Young Ed]

I'll be removing it from a 92 S10 2x4. I know somewhere they switched to elec speedometer control and I'm hoping this one is before that. Should I grab the driveshaft too?

[Don Coatney]

I'll be removing it from a 92 S10 2x4. I know somewhere they switched to elec speedometer control and I'm hoping this one is before that. Should I grab the driveshaft too?

Not sure what year Ford went to electric speedometers. I had a 93 Ford that had an electric speedometer. Grab the driveshaft as you may be able to use it.

[Young Ed]

That's what I figured about the driveshaft. Might be able to safe some money by just having that end cut off and redone to proper length and rearend type. Its still in a vehicle so I might be able to even hear it run through the gears behind an engine. Will be asking the seller some questions tonight!

[Young Ed]

I've got another question. Is it necessary to run a rear mount with these? I know the 3spds in the cars don't and the 3/4 spds in the trucks don't either. But the s10 probably does? I'm thinking I should grab the mount for future use while I'm at it.

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[Don Coatney]

I've got another question. Is it necessary to run a rear mount with these?

Ed;

I have an S-10 rear transmission crossmember sitting under the work bench in the garage. I grabbed it and do not (after 8 thousand + miles) see a need for it. I even went as far as to buy the new rubber mount for the rear crossmember. Then I tried to dump that new rubber piece in Tim Adams stable but that guy was way too smart and mailed it back to me. However I know how to get even. Tim best be checkin his mailbox so he can read up on stuff.

[Don Coatney]

go to www.jaloppyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20583 and 39127

This link did not work for me.

[Young Ed]

I should probably back my questions up here a little. Tranny is planned for a 1940 plymouth pickup. The pickups have their own set of issues. Mounting to the bellhousing is quite easy. There is enough beef there that you just drill and tap for holes and your attached to the housing. There is a kit available that gives you a spacer for the throwout bearing and a ring that you hit and stick on the tranny to make it a tight fit in the bellhousing opening. Now for the hard part.

Unlike a car the trucks have a frame crossmember quite near to the engine. This crossmember has a cutout in the middle for the driveshaft which needs to be modified/enlarged for the transmission. So depending on how things lined up I was thinking of attaching that mount to the frame member that would be modified.

[Merle Coggins]

Why couldn't you just let the trans hang off the back of the bell housing like the original oned did? I would think using the original truck engine mounts would be satisfactory.

Newer vehicles use mounts at the rear of the trans as the third point. The engine usually has one on either side, but nothing at the rear. The trans mount holds up the rear. If the earlier trucks are like mine, as far as engine mounting, than you already have a three point mount system. Front mount and two rear mounts.

Just my thoughts,

Merle

[Don Coatney]

Ed;

I have said many times that what worked for me may not work for everybody. Not all T-5's, bell housings, and engine combinations are the same. Measure twice then measure twrice again. I am getting requests to modify bell housings for a T-5. I will not do so as I cannot guarantee what will work. You need everything on the bench then make it work as required remembering as I did that failure is not an option! I will help you as best I can remotely.

[Young Ed]

Don I'll certainly only be using your work as a guideline. The truck bellhousing is a whole different animal too.

Merle I don't think there'd be anything wrong with letting it hang. But if there's a cross member at the frame there anyways I may be just as well off to modify it to include that support.

[james curl]

I have noticed on other sites that the T-5's have an angle brace on both sides of the transmission that supports the rear when there is no crossmember in back. The tubular mount fastens to the same bolts that hold the transmission to the bell housing. It consists of a straight tube from the bottom bolt to the rear of the transmission mount with a tube from the upper bolt down to the rear of the transmission on both sides.

[Don Coatney]

I have noticed on other sites that the T-5's have an angle brace on both sides of the transmission that supports the rear when there is no crossmember in back. The tubular mount fastens to the same bolts that hold the transmission to the bell housing. It consists of a straight tube from the bottom bolt to the rear of the transmission mount with a tube from the upper bolt down to the rear of the transmission on both sides.

James;

Could you possibly post a picture of this angle brace?

[james curl]

Don, I saw it in an article somewhere and thought thats how they keep from breaking the bottom ears off with a rear crossmember. If I remember right it was in a late model Camaro or Mustang where the rear of the engine and the transmission are supported by the rear crossmember under the back of the transmission. I have looked at everything I have and haven't found anything. I go to the Library and check out all of the manuals that have T-5's in them and anything else that might interest me at the time.