scottyv47 Posted August 2, 2012 Report Posted August 2, 2012 painted the car today, and it just must have been one of those days, when i put the first coat on the hood and roof the othe day, it was perfect, no runs, beutiful smooth paint, everything nice, today same gun same compressor same air pressure same paint, same mix, and just total B.S. the gun fought me the whole way, splattering, to much air, not enough air, tip popped off twice, paint came out like crap, so now i get to sand it all down again, and this time its getting painted rat rod black, swore i wouldn't look like all the other cars at the cruise in, but i want my car on the road !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote
randroid Posted August 2, 2012 Report Posted August 2, 2012 Scotty, There's a bright side, if you hide in a closet and close your eyes while becoming violently drunk and screaming obscenities, because you may be on to something big. "Patina" is the word given to worn-out paint because it's a more pleasant word than the real problem, and I guess the word got coined by someone who didn't want to go to the trouble or expense of painting the car properly. We all know what it is and that it will continue to deteriorate and take the car with it but the clever use of a simple word created not only a demand for such a finish but aftermarket products to assist anyone wanting his ride to go into the toilet faster than the next guy's ride. What I'm getting at here is that if you can come up with a word that doesn't describe the finish but is an alternative to the truth and can be said several times in a row while maintaining a straight face, you may have just created a whole new genre in automotive finishes. It would be not only possible to get a veritable host of slobs behind you but your car would be the first to offer attractive orange peel and artistic runs! The self-gratification afforded the inventor of the process would be immeasurable! Flat black would become blase for it's inherent lack of ability to loudly display what has hitherto been wrongfully scorned. You'd be considered a genius amongst your peers! We're all behind you on this and good luck in your fame and fortune. Good luck patenting the process, too, but we all wish you the best in your endeavor. Can you imagine how this will ease the burden of guilt previously bestowed upon this now-immaculate art form? "We knew him when!" -Randy Quote
Uncle-Pekka Posted August 2, 2012 Report Posted August 2, 2012 (edited) Sorry to learn your bad luck... painting seems to be just like that - to us amateurs. The biggest difference btw amateur painter and professional is just plain routine. The firm gun hand needs a LOT of practise... I am in the last leg of my D24 painting process myself. Have fiddled now three summers with rust repair and prepping. I have primed the body several layers and laid bondo, sanded it away, etc... Today I sprayed final coat on hood, fender skirts, gravel shieds and some smaller parts. The paint come out fairly good, but some half dozen small insects landed in the wet paint... This was the second time I sprayed these parts. Last time I could not get nice glossy surface, poor adjustment of gun and also probably bad mixture (not enough thinner in paint)... I seriously consider to let someone with experience to paint the body. The bigger area, the less chance to get it right. Edited August 2, 2012 by Uncle-Pekka Quote
scottyv47 Posted August 2, 2012 Author Report Posted August 2, 2012 Sorry to learn your bad luck... painting seems to be just like that - to us amateurs. The biggest difference btw amateur painter and professional is just plain routine. The firm gun hand needs a LOT of practise...I am in the last leg of my D24 painting process myself. Have fiddled now three summers with rust repair and prepping. I have primed the body several layers and laid bondo, sanded it away, etc... Today I sprayed final coat on hood, fender skirts, gravel shieds and some smaller parts. The paint come out fairly good, but some half dozen small insects landed in the wet paint... This was the second time I sprayed these parts. Last time I could not get nice glossy surface, poor adjustment of gun and also probably bad mixture (not enough thinner in paint)... I seriously consider to let someone with experience to paint the body. The bigger area, the less chance to get it right. i get bugs in mine too, the trick is no matter how much you want to pick them out, wait at least a week, then hit them with the hose and they'll fall right off, but if you try and pick them right away no matter how hard you try your gonna make a mess, and leave finger prints Quote
scottyv47 Posted August 2, 2012 Author Report Posted August 2, 2012 well now that i've had a chance to go inside and cool off for a while, it doesn't look as bad as i thought, i think if i just sand and paint the roof and hood again it might be allright, i've just never had that happen before where my gun had a mind of its own, if you look at the roof you can see one side nice other side way to much air from the gun, the thing is i didn't change it, and the compressor had same pressure whole time, and i painted both sides within 30 seconds of each other so its not like one side dried then got overspray from other side Quote
Niel Hoback Posted August 2, 2012 Report Posted August 2, 2012 Compared to the job I did on mine a few years ago, yours is a beaut! Be proud! Besides, nobody got hurt during the proccess. Quote
scottyv47 Posted August 2, 2012 Author Report Posted August 2, 2012 Scotty,There's a bright side, if you hide in a closet and close your eyes while becoming violently drunk and screaming obscenities, because you may be on to something big. "Patina" is the word given to worn-out paint because it's a more pleasant word than the real problem, and I guess the word got coined by someone who didn't want to go to the trouble or expense of painting the car properly. We all know what it is and that it will continue to deteriorate and take the car with it but the clever use of a simple word created not only a demand for such a finish but aftermarket products to assist anyone wanting his ride to go into the toilet faster than the next guy's ride. What I'm getting at here is that if you can come up with a word that doesn't describe the finish but is an alternative to the truth and can be said several times in a row while maintaining a straight face, you may have just created a whole new genre in automotive finishes. It would be not only possible to get a veritable host of slobs behind you but your car would be the first to offer attractive orange peel and artistic runs! The self-gratification afforded the inventor of the process would be immeasurable! Flat black would become blase for it's inherent lack of ability to loudly display what has hitherto been wrongfully scorned. You'd be considered a genius amongst your peers! We're all behind you on this and good luck in your fame and fortune. Good luck patenting the process, too, but we all wish you the best in your endeavor. Can you imagine how this will ease the burden of guilt previously bestowed upon this now-immaculate art form? "We knew him when!" -Randy no runs, and almost no orange peel, just alot of shiny and dull areas, how about "multi textured paint" Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted August 3, 2012 Report Posted August 3, 2012 Randy may be saying. you can say the paint is protecting the metal of the body from rust and decay while at the same time not making the car an object that may well be the target of the local network of thieves who steal just to strip and recycle or containerize for an overseas destination..especially if you have no place to secure the vhicle while you sleep or are away from the vechile.. Quote
randroid Posted August 3, 2012 Report Posted August 3, 2012 Scotty, What the car actually looks like is not at all what I had in my mind's eye. Hit it with some #1200 w\d and spray the clear coat. You're done! -Randy Quote
Uncle-Pekka Posted August 3, 2012 Report Posted August 3, 2012 i get bugs in mine too, the trick is no matter how much you want to pick them out, wait at least a week, then hit them with the hose and they'll fall right off, but if you try and pick them right away no matter how hard you try your gonna make a mess, and leave finger prints Yeah - It depends on when the bug decides to land ... will "he" land on the paint or in the paint... If the paint had time a couple of minutes to dry, he will only stick there at his feet, then your method is the best. If he does hit wet paint and fall over; he has some seconds to live, which he of course spends swimming and wrestling in my paint. Buries himself under the surface... As Randy suggested, I need to invent a name for this style: - Bugster (bugger!) - mosquito patina - "Pretty Fly for a self painted" -rod ??? Quote
MoparAl- Posted August 3, 2012 Report Posted August 3, 2012 Scotty, i know how you feel, i spent so long on the trunk lid and rear fenders and was so proud that they looked so good, then i hit that big area with the roof and it all went wrong ! i blame the paint ! i only ended up farming the top coat out as i want to use the car, i feel proud that i repaired the body myself, something i had never done before. But yours dont look that bad, have a blow, then get sanding, im sure you will win. Al Quote
Reg Evans Posted August 3, 2012 Report Posted August 3, 2012 I'm just curious. Was the second coat applied at the same time of day and under the same weather conditions as the better first coat ? Quote
Rusty O'Toole Posted August 3, 2012 Report Posted August 3, 2012 Calm down, go in the house and have a drink. In fact you may want to get drunk this weekend. Let the paint dry good, next week wet sand it and paint it again. Or have someone paint it. Have a couple of snifters before you pick up the gun. No kidding, I know some painters who always have a couple. They feel relaxed and don't care what happens, consequently they get a good job. If you are nervous and concentrate too hard you always mess up. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted August 3, 2012 Report Posted August 3, 2012 you own a liquor store or something..stock in Jim Beam..he may be an AA memeber..are we helping here.. Quote
Robert Horne Posted August 4, 2012 Report Posted August 4, 2012 The trouble with painting this time of the year, is the high humidity. Today the humidity is 96%. I like to paint my projects in the fall, and winter when there is less humidity. Good luck Scotty......... Quote
55 Fargo Posted August 4, 2012 Report Posted August 4, 2012 you own a liquor store or something..stock in Jim Beam..he may be an AA memeber..are we helping here.. Tim, some Guys ASSU Me, that everyone who paints old cars needs to get drunk. Heck the fumes are enough, aren't they,Geesh,should I have worn a mask. Quote
scottyv47 Posted August 4, 2012 Author Report Posted August 4, 2012 I'm just curious. Was the second coat applied at the same time of day and under the same weather conditions as the better first coat ? yep same time of day, same conditions, maybe even a tad less humidity, but not enough to change anything Quote
scottyv47 Posted August 4, 2012 Author Report Posted August 4, 2012 Calm down' date=' go in the house and have a drink. In fact you may want to get drunk this weekend.Let the paint dry good, next week wet sand it and paint it again. Or have someone paint it. Have a couple of snifters before you pick up the gun. No kidding, I know some painters who always have a couple. They feel relaxed and don't care what happens, consequently they get a good job. If you are nervous and concentrate too hard you always mess up.[/quote'] sorry not a drinker, but i'm willing to learn Quote
55 Fargo Posted August 4, 2012 Report Posted August 4, 2012 sorry not a drinker, but i'm willing to learn Stick with the old car and paint:eek:,you'll be better off in the long run;), better paint jobs and better driving:cool:....... Quote
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