ggdad1951 Posted November 8, 2011 Report Posted November 8, 2011 so what is the difference between these two heater models? Quote
TheMoose Posted November 22, 2011 Report Posted November 22, 2011 I have no idea but I have a Model 65 in my 53, what do you have? If we can find someone with a Model 61 & 62 we can see what the differences are. I'll be pulling mine soon so I'll take lots of pics when I do. Quote
ggdad1951 Posted November 22, 2011 Author Report Posted November 22, 2011 well near as I can tell, the only difference might be in the "defrost" aspect. The model 62 you have to move the little deflector by hand, and model 65 had a cable attachment. The model 65 was also used with the "fresh air option", the 62 was for the non fresh air option. I have one of each that I've torn apart, and am in the process of restoring. The innards are indentical between the two. The only difference I can tell is the defrost cable and the logo cover plate being different as well as a paint scheme difference. The model 65 is going in my truck and the 62 I'll sell. Quote
TheMoose Posted November 22, 2011 Report Posted November 22, 2011 What model belonged in what year truck? Or was it more of a fresh air or not difference? Is the Model 65 correct in my fresh air optioned 53? Quote
ggdad1951 Posted November 22, 2011 Author Report Posted November 22, 2011 What model belonged in what year truck? Or was it more of a fresh air or not difference?Is the Model 65 correct in my fresh air optioned 53? according to the parts manual (as far as I can tell), the 62 was the "standard" heater unless you had the fresh air option, which then you had the model 65. Sad thing is the model 62 heater is almost pristine under the paint, and just needed stripping and repainting for the most part. The Model 65 medalion was pretty rusty and will retain some of the pitting because I can't sand down the building primer by the lettering enough to keep that visible enough w/o removing what little metal remains. Seems the silver paint on the 65 medalion allowed more rust to build grow/eat. Quote
B1B Keven Posted November 22, 2011 Report Posted November 22, 2011 What model belonged in what year truck? Or was it more of a fresh air or not difference?Is the Model 65 correct in my fresh air optioned 53? according to the parts manual (as far as I can tell), the 62 was the "standard" heater unless you had the fresh air option, which then you had the model 65. Sad thing is the model 62 heater is almost pristine under the paint, and just needed stripping and repainting for the most part. The Model 65 medallion was pretty rusty and will retain some of the pitting because I can't sand down the building primer by the lettering enough to keep that visible enough w/o removing what little metal remains. Seems the silver paint on the 65 medallion allowed more rust to build grow/eat. Was the 61 used in older trucks? Quote
wallytoo Posted November 23, 2011 Report Posted November 23, 2011 my b-1-f has a model 62 heater. it also has a cable to activate the defroster valve, and it has the fresh air option, with a cable operated "door" to allow fresh air to enter the core. it used to have the head valve and associated cable to allow/block coolant through the core, but that was missing when i purchased the truck. Quote
ggdad1951 Posted November 23, 2011 Author Report Posted November 23, 2011 my b-1-f has a model 62 heater. it also has a cable to activate the defroster valve, and it has the fresh air option, with a cable operated "door" to allow fresh air to enter the core. it used to have the head valve and associated cable to allow/block coolant through the core, but that was missing when i purchased the truck. well then I'm confused, the parts manual says the 65 is for the fresh air option. Honestly there is NO difference in the body or internals between the two that I have except the badge and the little defrost door. Quote
wallytoo Posted November 23, 2011 Report Posted November 23, 2011 my parts book doesn't show that distinction. it has an exploded diagram simply labled "heater - models 62 and 65". they aren't shown as having the fresh air package. it also shows a model 504, which came with a fresh air package. the book also lists an exloded view for "fresh air intake package (for use in model 61 and 62 heater). i assume that that's what i have in my truck. the heater is labeled "model 62", and it has the fresh air package, and defroster cable. perhaps the cable for the defroster came with the "windshield defroster package"? Quote
B1B Keven Posted November 23, 2011 Report Posted November 23, 2011 Just for more info. My model 61 has the defrost/heater door on the upper left that is cable actuated and the fresh air option with the cable actuated valve on the firewall. Quote
ggdad1951 Posted November 23, 2011 Author Report Posted November 23, 2011 (edited) my parts book doesn't show that distinction. it has an exploded diagram simply labled "heater - models 62 and 65". they aren't shown as having the fresh air package.it also shows a model 504, which came with a fresh air package. the book also lists an exloded view for "fresh air intake package (for use in model 61 and 62 heater). i assume that that's what i have in my truck. the heater is labeled "model 62", and it has the fresh air package, and defroster cable. perhaps the cable for the defroster came with the "windshield defroster package"? I SWEAR I saw that the model 65 was for the fresh air option, but after going thru the parts book you are right....only difference might be the motor? They list different motors/brushes for the different models of heater. Who knows I guess! that also means the more pristine model 62 badge can go in my truck and the pitted (mostly fixed tho now) badge off the 65 will go on the "extra". Edited November 23, 2011 by ggdad1951 Quote
ggdad1951 Posted November 23, 2011 Author Report Posted November 23, 2011 also every heater I've run across here in MN only has a single door on them....is that normal? The pictures I've seen of some of yours have all three as do the adverts, but on all of mine the tabs for the door hinge rivet is bent over nicely to hold the screen. Quote
wallytoo Posted November 23, 2011 Report Posted November 23, 2011 you mean the side doors and bottom door on the heater unit itself? if so, then mine has all three. left-right-bottom, with screens, along with the outlet for the defroster ducts. Quote
55 Fargo Posted November 23, 2011 Report Posted November 23, 2011 I have the Model 65 Heater, needs to be restored, core is in okay shape, it does not have a motor and fan. I am planning to retrofit some type of 12 volt motor and fan, has anyone done this, and what did you use?....thanx Fred Quote
OLD DODGE Posted November 23, 2011 Report Posted November 23, 2011 More clarity, or more confusion? Quote
townwagon Posted November 23, 2011 Report Posted November 23, 2011 From the bunches of heaters I have seen there is no rhyme or reason to the model numbers. First there are two different Model 61s, early and late. The 61s all have more doors. The 62 and 65 seemed to be more time based than anything else. The 62 being used until 52ish (rough guess) and the 65 being used after that. Dodge used the 65 until 1955 when they switched to the 12V model 75 (which other than the number looks exactly like a 65). I have seen all models of heater with fresh air setups (well not the 36 {found on some b series}, or Kevin's mythical 70). The valve with the cable operated defroster control is only held on with a couple screws and moves with ease to any of the 61, 62, or 65 heaters. There are also two different styles of cable controlled defroster valve and two styles of cable operated water valve. Dodge was funny like that, sometimes they changed the part but not the part number and other times they changed the part number but not the part. Eric 1 Quote
wallytoo Posted November 23, 2011 Report Posted November 23, 2011 More clarity, or more confusion? actually, the model 70 is listed in the parts book, but without a picture of it. Quote
OLD DODGE Posted November 23, 2011 Report Posted November 23, 2011 I have seen all models of heater with fresh air setups (well not the 36 {found on some b series}, or Kevin's mythical 70). Ouch! That one stung. Some people might call certain things rare, but if you want to stick with the "mythical" term I guess I'll let it slide. I was just cleaning up my wife's mess last night when I saw that heater sheet. Since it was a topic of discussion I thought I'd post it. She sure is messy when she moves my stuff. Kevin Clause Collector of Mythical Things : ^) Quote
buds truck Posted November 23, 2011 Report Posted November 23, 2011 I have the Model 65 Heater, needs to be restored, core is in okay shape, it does not have a motor and fan. I am planning to retrofit some type of 12 volt motor and fan, has anyone done this, and what did you use?....thanx Fred I used one out of a ford pinto, but had to drill out the fan because the shaft was one size larger. otherwise it fit like a glove. Quote
55 Fargo Posted November 23, 2011 Report Posted November 23, 2011 I used one out of a ford pinto, but had to drill out the fan because the shaft was one size larger. otherwise it fit like a glove. Thanx Quote
B1B Keven Posted November 24, 2011 Report Posted November 24, 2011 I have the Model 65 Heater, needs to be restored, core is in okay shape, it does not have a motor and fan. I am planning to retrofit some type of 12 volt motor and fan, has anyone done this, and what did you use?....thanx Fred Computer fans. http://www430.pair.com/p15d24/mopar_forum/showthread.php?t=29972 Quote
55 Fargo Posted November 24, 2011 Report Posted November 24, 2011 Computer fans.http://www430.pair.com/p15d24/mopar_forum/showthread.php?t=29972 Thanx Keven Quote
wallytoo Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 from the other thread, about painting the heater, i see that mine is somewhat different. it has a medallion, but it's painted the same as the rest of the heater. the medallion doesn't have any raised lettering at all, neither the model number nor the "truckmaster" designation. the model number is along the upper edge of the front cover in small raised letters. Quote
B1B Keven Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 from the other thread, about painting the heater, i see that mine is somewhat different. it has a medallion, but it's painted the same as the rest of the heater. the medallion doesn't have any raised lettering at all, neither the model number nor the "truckmaster" designation. the model number is along the upper edge of the front cover in small raised letters. Wally. Does it look like this one? http://www.ebay.com/itm/International-IHC-Truck-HEATER-1949-49-1948-48-1947-47-1946-46-1941-41-1942-42-/300627313878?hash=item45fec8c4d6&item=300627313878&pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr Quote
wallytoo Posted November 29, 2011 Report Posted November 29, 2011 no. it looks just like the 61/62 and 65. has a circle medallion, but no raised lettering in the medallion. just a blank. Quote
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