1949P17BC Posted March 6, 2009 Report Posted March 6, 2009 All, doe snayone have a picture of how this is too be mounted? Quote
DonaldSmith Posted March 7, 2009 Report Posted March 7, 2009 I've got the post-war Mopar, which has the over-center spring at about 60 degrees, almost vertical. Someone once posted a template of the C-705 gauge shown in my S-11, S-13, S-15 shop manual. I made a cardboard version, and used it successfully to adjust my clutch over-center spring. Sweet. For the 2nd Series 49s and on, the over-center spring is about 25 degrees, nearlly horizontal, and the manual calls for a C-853 gauge. Maybe someone can post a template of that gauge. Quote
steveplym Posted March 7, 2009 Report Posted March 7, 2009 Is this the link you were talking about Donald? It's on the main site under downloads. Then click the overspring adjuster template. http://www40.addr.com/~merc583/mopar/framesets/softwareframeset.html Quote
DonaldSmith Posted March 7, 2009 Report Posted March 7, 2009 Yep, the link is to the C-705 gauge for the post-war through 49 1st series. The plan is of the piece before it gets bent. Cut out the metal (or foam core board) per the plan, and then bend it. (Instead of bending the foam core board, I glued layers together to get the offset. I then cut the board per the paper template, with the paper following the offset.) The C-853 gauge for the 49 2nd series and following years is different. For the 49 2nd series the re-doodled the clutch linkage and steering, to lower the body for a more modern look. Quote
JIPJOBXX Posted March 7, 2009 Report Posted March 7, 2009 That over travel spring was about the end to me. I had more problems get it set so that the clutch would work correctly. I finally in desperation had to adjust that pivot pin inside the bell housing. Its not like it suppose to be but it works and after about a month playing with that disengagement for the clutch arm that what I had to do to make it work. I put a couple of washers on stem of that shaft and tighten down on the outside nut. I really never did figure out why I had to do this but I did and its works just great now. Pivot 6-22-15 that's the part I had to adjust. Clutch material was ok and the clutch itself was ok but I just couldn't get enough swing on that clutch arm to make the clutch disengage. And yes I tried all those clutch adjusting area's on the rods and that never worked. Quote
1949P17BC Posted March 8, 2009 Author Report Posted March 8, 2009 All, thanks for the information.. Its for a 47 P!5. The question I have is how does it hook up.. You would think it is pretty obvious, but I am having a senior moment on this one. Any "live action" shots from one of your cars woyuld be great. Quote
1949P17BC Posted March 8, 2009 Author Report Posted March 8, 2009 All, thanks for the information.. Its for a 47 P!5. The question I have is how does it hook up.. You would think it is pretty obvious, but I am having a senior moment on this one. Any "live action" shots from one of your cars woyuld be great. Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted March 8, 2009 Report Posted March 8, 2009 That over travel spring was about the end to me. I had more problems get it set so that the clutch would work correctly. I finally in desperation had to adjust that pivot pin inside the bell housing. Its not like it suppose to be but it works and after about a month playing with that disengagement for the clutch arm that what I had to do to make it work. I put a couple of washers on stem of that shaft and tighten down on the outside nut. I really never did figure out why I had to do this but I did and its works just great now.Pivot 6-22-15 that's the part I had to adjust. Clutch material was ok and the clutch itself was ok but I just couldn't get enough swing on that clutch arm to make the clutch disengage. And yes I tried all those clutch adjusting area's on the rods and that never worked. Worn clutch linkage pivot holes/pins-major cause of clutch adjustment problems, and possible engine out of correct mounting position could cause you to not be able to get the correct clutch adjustments. Also all the correct factory parts must be used. Bob Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted March 9, 2009 Report Posted March 9, 2009 Mark......I went out and got under the car as far as I could in the garage and took these pics. Maybe they will be of some help. Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted March 9, 2009 Report Posted March 9, 2009 Another picture of the actual C705 miller tool being used on my Chrysler. Linkage is the same but a splash shield preventing a good picture. Quote
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