David Maxwell Posted February 15, 2009 Report Posted February 15, 2009 ...however, in every case I've seen, the material has shrunk and allowed water to damage the panels. I replaced mine with a layer of Dynamat sound deadner which is both waterproof and deadens vibration noise. For the access holes to adjust windows etc. I covered with a layer of foil tape which can easily be cut through and then recovered if needed. When I took my 57 Chevrolet apart to go to paint, underneath the door panels was a piece of brown paper that was sort of a tar paper. I guess this was the early answer to keep water off the door panels. Funny tho, all original classic and antique cars seem to have some sort of water damage to the door panels. Quote
dirty dan Posted February 15, 2009 Report Posted February 15, 2009 Besides "borrowing" signs from my neighbors yards what's another good source for the coroplast? Your local print shop should have it for making yard signs. Quote
Captain Neon Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 Dave, do you have a picture of your completed back door? Quote
David Maxwell Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 ...which show the completed rear door. And a fisheye lens pic Dave, do you have a picture of your completed back door? Quote
Captain Neon Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 Thanks, Dave. Lots of ideas for my own upholstery. I see that you carpeted the foot rest. I have debated the pros and cons, and lean towards carpeting mine. Quote
David Maxwell Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 ...I'm sure you know that it was carpeted originally. I've only seen one on which an owner recovered it with a rubber material. It did not look good as the rubber is not easily molded to the shape of the foot rest. Also, I believe the rubber would wear out faster than the carpet. Especially if you use either the original hogs hair or an indoor/outdoor marine carpet in the same fleck pattern. Both wear exceptionally well. Whatever you do, I can't wait to see the pics when you finish! Thanks, Dave. Lots of ideas for my own upholstery. I see that you carpeted the foot rest. I have debated the pros and cons, and lean towards carpeting mine. Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 It just seems kind of odd that there were no arm rests on the rear doors, simply to use in pulling them closed. Guess you just used the handle. Quote
David Maxwell Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 ... a driver naturally closed the doors for his/her guest when they got into the back seat. That aside, it would have been a little redundant to have an arm rest on the door and just rear of the door next to the seat where it was better positioned for use during a drive. It just seems kind of odd that there were no arm rests on the rear doors,simply to use in pulling them closed. Guess you just used the handle. Quote
Bingster Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 Where did you get those nice ivory plastic pieces for the handles and such? I have clear plastic on my Desoto but would rather have ivory. Are Dodge & Plymouth interchangeable with Desoto for '47 on these parts? I also want to change the dash knobs if the shafts would accept other knobs. Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 When I was very young, about 3 or 4 years old, maybe, my father bought a new P15 four door sedan (light grey).....probably a 1946 model. They had not invented child safety locks yet, so he made his own. He drilled a hole thru the door post and on into the front edge of the rear door. Then, he inserted a long guttering nail thru the holes. He shoulda patented that I guess...... Quote
David Maxwell Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 ...who goes by stearman_325 on this forum. Just search for him under the Member List and send him a private message. He reproduces the Plymouth P15 knobs and does and outstanding job! I believe all Mopar vehicles used the same square shaft throughout the 1940s. As for the dash knobs, I can't be sure what would interchange directly. I have seen Dodge knobs used on Plymouths from time to time. Where did you get those nice ivory plastic pieces for the handles and such? I have clear plastic on my Desoto but would rather have ivory. Are Dodge & Plymouth interchangeable with Desoto for '47 on these parts? I also want to change the dash knobs if the shafts would accept other knobs. Quote
David Maxwell Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 ... and I picked up a set on ebay once. I never installed them, but I think the basic idea was they disabled the interior door lever so that you could only open the door from the outside. I'll have to dig them out if they're not buried too deep and see. When I was very young, about 3 or 4 years old, maybe, my father boughta new P15 four door sedan (light grey).....probably a 1946 model. They had not invented child safety locks yet, so he made his own. He drilled a hole thru the door post and on into the front edge of the rear door. Then, he inserted a long guttering nail thru the holes. He shoulda patented that I guess...... Quote
Captain Neon Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 ...I'm sure you know that it was carpeted originally. I've only seen one on which an owner recovered it with a rubber material. It did not look good as the rubber is not easily molded to the shape of the foot rest. Also, I believe the rubber would wear out faster than the carpet. Especially if you use either the original hogs hair or an indoor/outdoor marine carpet in the same fleck pattern. Both wear exceptionally well. Whatever you do, I can't wait to see the pics when you finish! I wanted to use our tax refund to reupholster the P15. My wife reminded me that that money would be better utilised paying down debt. It was hard to argue against logic like that, esp. with her brother-in-law getting his lay-off notice yesterday. Quote
blueskies Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 Yesterday I had to make a trip to Boise, ID, so I stopped by Interstate Plastics and picked up two 4x8 sheets of 1/8" ABS plastic sheet. I can finally make my door panels! The sheets cost $44 each, and with two sheets, I will have enough to make all four door panels, the kick panels in the front, package tray, and the piece that goes in the trunk on the back of the rear seat. Might have enough left to make some side panels in the trunk too. Can't wait to get started... Pete Quote
Young Ed Posted February 20, 2009 Author Report Posted February 20, 2009 Pete the bottom of yours looks about the same as the p15 doors. From what I have found out so far the trickyest part is going to be reopening the gap in that stainless bead piece. I've got to find a plastics place here Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 I received in the mail a few days ago some small swatches of Original style P15 cloth seat covering, supposedly for a convertible. 4 styles of grey and 2 of maroon........I haven't figured thru it yet, but the cost is $85 per yard. hmmmmm. Plan on checking with the National Fabric Supply place in K C again before deciding just what to use. Think I'll go cloth rather than vinyl as originally planned. These seats are actually in a 49 Plym convert that was just for sale on ebay.....but they look just like the P15 convert seats. I'm thinking of maroon and tan rather than my original maroon and grey. (My car was actually Sumac Red when new, and the grey part would have looked OK. Since it's now yellow, tan seems a better blend, kind of goes with the tan top.) Quote
David Maxwell Posted February 21, 2009 Report Posted February 21, 2009 It won't work and you don't need to. The trick is to use a thin metal strip which you wrap the material around coming from both the kick panel portion and the upper cloth portion. When you apply the padding (foam or other material), leave a gap wide enough for the covered metal strip to drop into. You then butt the fabric with the metal up to the original stainless strip. Check out my photos in the earlier posts. Good luck! Pete the bottom of yours looks about the same as the p15 doors. From what I have found out so far the trickyest part is going to be reopening the gap in that stainless bead piece. I've got to find a plastics place here Quote
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