Don Coatney Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 Have you guys not beat this topic to death yet? Quote
Young Ed Posted February 12, 2009 Author Report Posted February 12, 2009 Don the political sign part or the whole topic? Quote
Don Coatney Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 Don the political sign part or the whole topic? Dont question your presidential manager:mad: Quote
Young Ed Posted February 12, 2009 Author Report Posted February 12, 2009 Don buy me some compaign signs and I will use the leftovers for doorpanels Quote
old woolie Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 There are a multitude of applications for this stuff. Quote
old woolie Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 Have you guys not beat this topic to death yet? We'll let you know when we're done. Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 Have you guys not beat this topic to death yet? Nah!!, we're just getting started. Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 I have to relocate my front arm rests to see how they are done. The back ones are for sure 3 pieces sewn together and are then stapled to the back. Mine look to be a different material then the rest of the door panels which seems kinda odd Ed, my rear arm rest have the same type and pattern to the material as the original type seat covers. The striped wool material, not solid color door panel material material. Quote
Don Coatney Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 Don buy me some compaign signs and I will use the leftovers for doorpanels Bought you and your honey pizza pie. What else do you want to eat:confused: Geez and I thought my boys ate a lot............ Quote
hkestes41 Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 Here are a couple of pretty good threads from the HAMB on using ABS for door panels. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177348&highlight=abs+door+panel http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=318310&highlight=abs+door+panel Quote
blueskies Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 Here are a couple of pretty good threads from the HAMB on using ABS for door panels.http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177348&highlight=abs+door+panel http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=318310&highlight=abs+door+panel Thanks for those links... One of the threads has the address for a supplier in Boise, ID where I can go buy ABS by the sheet next time I'm over there... Also liked the snaps for holding the panels on the door. Pete Quote
Young Ed Posted February 13, 2009 Author Report Posted February 13, 2009 I was curious about those snaps. Wouldn't you have a gap between the material and the metal of the door that way? Quote
blueskies Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 I was curious about those snaps. Wouldn't you have a gap between the material and the metal of the door that way? I suppose it would depend on the thickness and or padding of the upholstery on the pannel... If snaps were slim enough, I think it would be good. I've also seen this done with rare-earth magnets epoxy glued to the pannels. They just stick to the door, and come off without fuss if you need to get into the door for some reason. Pete Quote
Young Ed Posted February 13, 2009 Author Report Posted February 13, 2009 That would be interesting too. I wonder if I could glue some magnets to my carpet to keep it from falling down on the pass side. For door panels though once your car is done how often do you really need to go back in? Quote
blueskies Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 ...once your car is done how often do you really need to go back in? Hardly ever, I would think. The stock door panel clips on my '50 are fairly easy to pop off of the door, unlike the plastic "chirstmas tree" type that are found on some modern cars. And the stock ones pop back onto the door easy too. If I can find enough of the clips that were on the car, I will just use them. I think I may only be missing a couple of them anyway. The only counter-intuitive aspect to the clips used on the '50 is that the holes for the clips in the panels are offset relative to the holes in the door. My door panels are in pretty good shape, aside from being soft/rotten at the bottom edges under the maroon nagahide. I like the idea of the waterproof PVC, you can see the water damage on all four of my door panels. I also think I will use a piece visqueen plastic and double sided tape as a vapor barrior to seal the holes in the door like modern cars have, to keep any moisture in the door from getting into the car and fabrics. Pete Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 I'd stick with the original type clips for the door panels. They just pop right out when you slide a putty knife or screwdriver behind the panel and gently pry it away from the door. The more modern plastic type pop out easily too if you do it that way. Just put your screwdriver or putty knife between the panel and door, slide it up or down until it won't go any further (you've now found the clip) and pry as close to the clip as possible. If you are missing some clips or want all new ones, I have a source for those. Will look it up for you when the time comes. Or.........you can do what I did. Find an old Ford vendor and buy the clips from him that were used on old Fords. They work just as good and are about half the price. I have some extras, so if you want to see one let me know. I'll then take a picture and post what the Ford clip looks like. They are a wire clip. I bought all new ones because a lot of my old ones were rusty, and didn't want to use a rusty clip on my new panel. A little hint about holding the door panel in place. If you install the arm rest on the door, it will hold the panel in place and won't move around. Quote
David Maxwell Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 My upholsterer knew every trick in the book to replicate the original door panel design and to reuse that stainless trim between the vinyl and the wool (anyone who's tried to reuse it knows the basic problem). Anyhow, here's a pic of the panel in progress. Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 David......re the arm rests......are they one solid color, or two colors of material? Quote
David Maxwell Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 ...covered in the seat material. There was an optional arm rest cover which I reproduced from leftover vinyl I had. David......re the arm rests......are they one solid color, or two colors ofmaterial? Quote
Young Ed Posted February 13, 2009 Author Report Posted February 13, 2009 David did you have a sample of the optional arm rest cover or did you just guesstimate it? I was considering doing mine in all vinyl. Quote
David Maxwell Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 The pattern took quite a bit of thought to come up with. A Home Ec teacher at the school I teach at helped. Quote
David Maxwell Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 ... I only had old brochure images to work from so I just came up with my own approximation of what the design would be. Some day I'll make another set and make some changes to the design. David did you have a sample of the optional arm rest cover or did you just guesstimate it? I was considering doing mine in all vinyl. Quote
David Maxwell Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 ...because I forgot to mention that I do have a set of generic arm rest covers from the 1940's. The were designed to fit any passenger car of the day. They are vinyl and zip over the entire arm rest. I don't really like the look of them so I've never used them. They pop up on ebay from time to time in various colors. This pic shows a set very similar to mine along with a car that had the original factory option covers. David did you have a sample of the optional arm rest cover or did you just guesstimate it? I was considering doing mine in all vinyl. Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 While on the subject of interiors. Just received a new catalog from JC Whitney today. Back in 1998 I bought a new vinyl headliner from them for only $69. The original nap type headliner was the same price back then in either gray or brown. In today's catalog the vinyl headliner is $235 and the nap headliner is $270. Can you say price increase. Even the seat covers and flat material I bought are double the price now. Quote
radioguy7 Posted February 15, 2009 Report Posted February 15, 2009 I like the idea of using waterproof materials , there can be a lot of rainwater flowing through the doors . On my more modern truck there is a thin film of plastic stuck over the access openings before the door panel goes on . When I took my 57 Chevrolet apart to go to paint, underneath the door panels was a piece of brown paper that was sort of a tar paper. I guess this was the early answer to keep water off the door panels. Funny tho, all original classic and antique cars seem to have some sort of water damage to the door panels. Quote
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