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Will do, il try and get back out to the yard tomorrow and get some more pics. Thanks man!

This is what was called an "Iron lung" cummins, AKA the C180. If you look at a detroit the blower is much larger and more prominent on the right hand side, these guys were just there to feed better than a turbo, since turbos werent quite there yet... This is a larger cummins, but it too is supercharged. You can even see the blower on the bottom front! You guys are right though, there is nothing quite like the Detroit scream!

Id really appreciate it if you could! Merle, I have read that these motors ranged from 401 to 464 (transpose a number there?) But the C series are usually 464.

Tim, I see what you are saying but there are actually 2 completely different C175's Yes, the one you found is an 8.3 liter, but they are only related in name. This unit is about 464 CI or less if I remember correctly, and it was manufactured around the 60-70's and is actually a touch smaller than a 6BT overall. It's actually easier to call it out as a C160 because I don't think they remade that one. That's where alot of the confusion here comes from, makes these information searches a huge pain! it is actually a distant relative of the modern day 6.7 liter used in the newer dodges. This guy here is a C180 (supercharged model of the old C-175, unfortunately not mine), note how little the trailer seems to sag! Versus this behemoth that occupies an entire shipping pallot. This the the 8.3, the later C175. See the difference in size?

Well if that's the case it looks like I have a winner! The lever attaches just like the first picture, on the side just under where it says cummins. it looks like somebody could convert one pretty easily if they could find the parts around too, they look similar except the button cover and the throttle lever housing

This one has the lever on the side, can't say I have seen a pt pump any other way, but I dont get to hang around too many diesels. And Tim, I'm a student, all I do is research!

Tim, I see what you are saying here but I don't think weight is a huge issue with this truck (1.5 ton truck) Now what isn't particularly easy to find out is how exactly to operate these motors. It's not a standard 6BT, the C175 is an older engine from about the 60-70's that actually relates to the new 6.7's in a twisted way,except It is fully mechanical and uses a PT pump. For instance, detroits like to be pegged and are super picky about oil, that's the kind of info I'm after. Basically, are they good motors when theyre working?

Believe it or not I actually use the trailer on a pretty regular basis, thing makes a very comfortable cabin up in the woods! Now for the educational part, let me break out the chalk board and big cheezy mustache! Merle is correct, these industrial motors use special bellhousings. They use an SAE system that is common between many manufacturers. For instance, look at this table. This bellhousing would be the same as many others, including everything from modern diesels back to some of our beloved giant flatheads like the 413. This allowed for engines to readily interchange between manufacturers, with the only limitation being exactly which SAE size you have, which is dependent on the particular engines power ratings. But to answer the question, there is a lovely 5 speed still attached to the blown up power unit next to it, which coincidentally is also a cummins. I would love a 6BT but those things demand a premium around here, a junker out of a bread truck is about $2000 without the trans, I guess there is a builder around here somewhere buying them up like they're going out of style! The difference is that my friends here tend to favor me to the engine builders.

Dang it Merle, I'm gonna be wiping drool off my desk for weeks now! If my friend's story is correct, that was a pretty low hour motor back when they brought it in. It was in a Galeon grader from about the 60's, the operator rolled it over going across the side of a hill, which nearly killed the operator and wrecked most of the grader, but the power unit here is perfectly intact. My only concern would be how long it ran upside-down if at all, I'm not sure how these old PT pumps reacted to that. I did notice that the exhaust manifold is cracked in a spot, but I suppose I could build a tube manifold like moose does if it comes down to it

Well I would have to bet that anyone that has read my posts in the past is probably bashing their heads on their desk by now, but I have a 41' WF32 sitting around, some awesome axles, and my friends down at the scrapyard have this C175 out of an old grader sitting around, why not put em together? I would love to put together a truck like the one in the picture, give it a diesel, maybe even go bonkers with 4x4. there is just something cool about vintage diesels, nothing against 6BTs and 24 valves. Anyway, the C175 is best defined at the 6BT's older brother, from about the 60-70s. The block is actually a couple inches shorter than the later models too. I guess it was in great shape when the grader rolled over back in the day, almost killed the operator. But that's why it is there. I'm just wondering if anybody can give me any pointers on these beasts?

Good morning from snowed in Platteville! As per usual, ive got a crazy idea and the local hunkyard has a cummins. Problem being I cant find anything online about em! Could anyone share any wisdom about em? The motor I'm looking at is a c175. Some places say governor is 2200 and others 2800, cummins seems to think its a 6bt... Thanks guys, and feel free to share stories too!

I had considered that, would have to get em pretty good and hot to do it though

I looked into that, unfortunately the 8 lug pattern is required for the brake rotors and also impedes on the big 5 bolt pattern. only thing I could think of is to actually cut and weld together some spacers out of junkyard parts, but welding something that heavy is kinda hard to get any good heat into it...

Morning guys, My brother recently got me a better rear axle for my big WF32 up north, (3.73 gears, posi, disk brakes, etc) with 8 lug hubs on it. Short of cutting and fabbing my own hub spacers I cant figure how to work with the big 5 lug pattern! Any ideas? I was ccontemplating modding some dually hub spacers to do the trick, but that would require welding spacers...

The trick is to find one that used to run not too long ago, theres a b1d at an antique mall by Galena here thats pretty tood for instance, ran ten years ago. These trucks always seem to be in odd places... but if you know some sheet metal nothings impossible!

Whatcha wanna know? Theres a story behind almost every new part! For those of you just tuning in- MK-1: literally threw a $5 turbocharger on, blew right through a stock carb. worked fine until it hit 3+ lbs boost and would never start for crap MK-2: added dual TBI throttle bodies, ran really super crappy and never completed MK-3: current iteration, only one throttle body using a single 454 injector, just needs a little more tuning I found the turbo about two years back on an old subaru motor that ran out of oil, bought it for $5 for a desk ornament and found a big glob of RTV in the compressor, the thing hadnt spun once since it was installed! Turned out to be a JDM high performance (like 425 horse!) turbo that never belonged in the states to begin with? But MK-1 had an issue with excessive ping and absolutely chugged fuel. Decided to go to fuel injection, using the ECM out of a 90' sunbird (same computer as the Syclone or Typhoon) and throttle bodies out of old 90's GM cars. Problem with the dual bodies- excessive fuel and air, and rather uncontrollable. As it turns out the single throttle body has about the same bore as our own factory intake manifolds, so with some creative machining it bolted right on and ran, but needed a bigger injector, hence the 454 injector.

or at least somewhere around here... After a long hiatus from being away at school, I finally got to get the 53' going again! There was a thread somewhere around here about how to bring the flathead into the future, well recycled 90's tech will have to do! As some of you may remember, my 53' was turbocharged before with the stock carburetor, well as any tinkerer would know that is never enough. So here is what I have affectionately named "MK-3" What it is, the same turbocharger I had before (really odd japanese performance thing), paired with a GM TBI injector run by a sunbird turbo ECM. It is a heck of a lot simpler than you would think. Throttle response so far is amazing, starting is awesome, and it was pretty cheap to build.

I could get you a whole truck if you were closer! But I doubt you want to drive all the way to northern wisconsin for that!

That would be it, Thanks guys! It's safe now, I found another manifold in the iron pile to mess with... I will hang on to it, but if someone needs it just give me a shout! -josh

I have this intake laying around, and I dont want to cut it up for my project if it's something special. Any idea as to what it's for? Thanks! -Josh

farm and fleet usually has 2 piece schraders to do this, check them out. It should be a brass thing with some rubber rings and a nut

I'd think they would be fine, so long as you don't take it up to freeway speed and disconnect the driveshaft. I have been running around on old tires with the flatbed for awhile, wouldn't trust em for actual use but just to roll is fine

Flip through this! It should say somewhere! http://dodgepilothouseclub.org/know/dodge_preview/imgcol/index.htm -josh

Well guys, as much as I loved my turbo project I'm going to take it off. It works pretty well, and if anybody wants it I would consider selling it to put money towards my next adventure For it to actually show it's colors I have to drive a tad more aggressively than I like, It would probably be great for a certain somebody's route van If anybody wants it, I will sell them the turbo, exhaust manifold, and the plenum that mounts on top of the carburetor.

Gotta love what they can do with animations these days! Some people use a program called Source Filmmaker (SFM), type it in on YouTube and theres some really well done videos, they tend to use video games like Team Fortress 2 and make some funny stuff! Thanks for sharing!