Guest 1950desoto Posted March 7, 2008 Report Posted March 7, 2008 Hello all my name is John and i have got me a 1950 Desoto. I payed 1000 for it the guy told me it as a rebuild motor in it but it will not stay run. I'm trying to get started and fix it up and get the rust off. I have a ques. 1: How do you tell if it is 3 or 4 speed fluid drive i was reading the other post about it. My desoto is not running so i can not try the test that they are talking about. 2: I have post same pics of the steering column and shifter. I like to new how the shifter works? 3: i thank the clutch paddle is not hook up and my shop Manuel does not show how it is hook up? 4: any info you give me will be nice Quote
mackster Posted March 7, 2008 Report Posted March 7, 2008 Welcome to the forum! I too have a desoto. mine is a 53. the safety clutch is a dead giveway you have a fluid drive tranny. The clutch should be connected directly to the tranny on the side parallel to the paddles... I can post some pictures for you if needed. In your tranny you should have two levers one will be a selector level that will put the tranny in gear. High or Low, Reverse or Park. Is this making any sense to you, or am I way off with your car? I am basing my answers on my 53, and I think it should be the same...let me know.... Hello all my name is John and i have got me a 1950 Desoto. I payed 1000 for it the guy told me it as a rebuild motor in it but it will not stay run. I'm trying to get started and fix it up and get the rust off. I have a ques.1: How do you tell if it is 3 or 4 speed fluid drive i was reading the other post about it. My desoto is not running so i can not try the test that they are talking about. 2: I have post same pics of the steering column and shifter. I like to new how the shifter works? 3: i thank the clutch paddle is not hook up and my shop Manuel does not show how it is hook up? 4: any info you give me will be nice Quote
55 Fargo Posted March 7, 2008 Report Posted March 7, 2008 Hi John, what do you mean it won't stay running, can you get it started, if so how, do you need to prime the carb and then the engine will start. You may want to put in new spark plugs, wires, cap, rotor,points. Your fuel system may be dirty, the carb may be all gummed up, is the gas tank clean, does your fuel pump work. How is the cooling system, do you have coolant in the rad and block, is it fairly clean, you may have to flush and clean everything, then add new coolant. You say the engine is rebuilt, can you send some pics of the engine. Where is the clutch pedal, you are going to need a good diagram of the clutch pedal and how the clutch linkage is hooked up and how it works. I do have the diagram for the 1941 to 1948 Mopar, bu the 1950 llinkage is different, and the fluid drive linkage is slightly longer and different than the dry clutch version. Keep us posted, send more pics, I am sure we can help you get this engine running, the car looks very good and is in nice straight shape.........................Fred Quote
Guest 1950desoto Posted March 7, 2008 Report Posted March 7, 2008 here are same more pics. and I need to get to the car this week end and get same more. Quote
Normspeed Posted March 7, 2008 Report Posted March 7, 2008 I see the problem. Your car has two motors. Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted March 7, 2008 Report Posted March 7, 2008 Hi John. Welcome. That is a nice looking DeSoto. Looks like someone had been messing with the dashboard at the bottom edge....or maybe that's just how that model is. Which of the two motors is the correct one....blue or rust color???? Quote
48mirage Posted March 7, 2008 Report Posted March 7, 2008 That blue one has a Dodge head on it. Quote
48mirage Posted March 7, 2008 Report Posted March 7, 2008 You guys are confusing the fluid drive, which is a sealed fluid unit between the clutch and the engine. It is used to transfer power between the 2 without a mechanical connection. Similar to a torque convertor in an automatic. The safety clutch writing on the pedal suggest that you have a gyromatic or tiptoe shift transmission. The gryromatic should have solenoid's on the side of the transmission and some wiring up to a solenoid on the carb. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_Drive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chrysler_transmissions Quote
greg g Posted March 7, 2008 Report Posted March 7, 2008 It not the guys that are doing the confusing, it was mother Crysler that laid the fluid drive name on a whole mess of differnet power transfer units from standard three speeds to Semi automatics. Kinda like George Forman's kids. If it says safety clutch then it likely is indeed a Tip Toe semi auto in a DeSoto. Gyromatic was Dodge, and Fluid Torque Drive was Chryslers. For areal good primer on the Semi automatic behind the fluid coupler go to the imperial clubs website and check the information in their tech section. They have scanned copies of thechnicians handbooks dealing with trouble shooting and rebuilding the units. Quote
Guest 1950desoto Posted March 9, 2008 Report Posted March 9, 2008 yesterday i put same pics of two different motors i am sorry for that. Here are the new pics. Quote
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