Scottish 41 Windsor Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 Good evening all, does anyone have a 1941 (ish) Chrysler (Windsor) or similar era windscreen that they can measure the thickness of please? I need some new glass and there’s a place locally who can cut me new screens from 6.4mm glass. I just need to know if this is in the ballpark 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 within .0004 of an inch.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 If going laminate and old school....glass should fall within the 1/4" category. However some companies today use 3/16 non laminate, cut, send off for firing and issue safety glass (tempered) for application other than windshield. So you will need to know what you want and ensure if not laminate, it is tempered. I have laminate in my windshield and tempered everywhere else in my 48...not stock but my call....also tinted panels. For fit the issue is usually never thickness between the two, it is selecting the correct setting tape and the glass cutter cutting to exact NAG templates. (measuring process to determine correct tape applies) If cut a bit wide you could well experience drag on the leading and trailing edges, making difficult to roll up and causing premature wear on the channel rubber/seals. A vent I have here at my desk this minute is from a 40's car and is .237 if this is of any help to you. My post above just simplly states the metric glass you were quoted is only 4 ten-thousands from .250 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish 41 Windsor Posted August 26 Author Report Share Posted August 26 52 minutes ago, Plymouthy Adams said: If going laminate and old school....glass should fall within the 1/4" category. However some companies today use 3/16 non laminate, cut, send off for firing and issue safety glass (tempered) for application other than windshield. So you will need to know what you want and ensure if not laminate, it is tempered. I have laminate in my windshield and tempered everywhere else in my 48...not stock but my call....also tinted panels. For fit the issue is usually never thickness between the two, it is selecting the correct setting tape and the glass cutter cutting to exact NAG templates. (measuring process to determine correct tape applies) If cut a bit wide you could well experience drag on the leading and trailing edges, making difficult to roll up and causing premature wear on the channel rubber/seals. A vent I have here at my desk this minute is from a 40's car and is .237 if this is of any help to you. My post above just simplly states the metric glass you were quoted is only 4 ten-thousands from .250 That’s great news, the place cuts windscreens from laminate for classic cars, they have said the thinnest they do is 6.4mm. I’m buying a set of Steele rubbers, front and back from the USA, so wanted to make sure this glass would fit as my current screens are starting to delaminate in the centre post area. Thank you very much for your detailed response, most appreciated 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyd Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 Just my Oz 2 cents worth, be careful dealing with Steele Rubber.......they sent me the wrong part and would not consider that they had done such a thing and since then I badmouth them as much as possible.........just ensure that they understand your order.........andyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 Personally, I am with Andy on this, while Steele has a usual good listing, their products fall way short of useable. From worse vent seals in the world to rubber of such durometer that doors and trunks will not close and stay gaped at these seems...while I am sure in a hot sun over a period of time they may relax. However, I am not willing to expend this added effort and further would not bet the possible loss of my breakfast biscuit on this possibility. I like to use Clester's for my rubber and so far have not been disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish 41 Windsor Posted August 28 Author Report Share Posted August 28 Cheers gents…..do either of you know if Clesters seals are endless (bonded ends) or just lengths of profile. The Steele windscreen one is one piece bonded with the centre bar seal bonded in. quite a few guys seem to rate this seal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 The ones I got long back were 'vulcanized' to they were spock on fit. (ah come on, not that bad a joke) Drop them an e-mail. Good people, been to their shop twice in person but that was years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish 41 Windsor Posted August 28 Author Report Share Posted August 28 19 minutes ago, Plymouthy Adams said: The ones I got long back were 'vulcanized' to they were spock on fit. (ah come on, not that bad a joke) Drop them an e-mail. Good people, been to their shop twice in person but that was years ago. 🤦♂️🤦♂️ oh dear 🤣 Ive sent them a query, Steele stuff is expensive but if it saves me time and grief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 for sure go with what your gut says is best.....many companies do not offer the correct durometer rubber....that is very critical when fitting hinged body panels. Not much you can do with stiff rubber that will not relax or deflect with pressure. I feel your pain as you are in Scotland and have little chance of inspecting an item prior to purchase. I found a number of rubber products for the last British car I built very much the same scenario, wrong durometer and literally tossed these in the trash and was a task finding generic rubber that did do a much better job overall. Sad part was the time spent with the brake making channels for the seals I ordered and welding this onto the doors on to not be able to use the channels or the rubber. Unfortunately, this has a high probability of happening on any build no matter who is selling reproduction parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish 41 Windsor Posted August 28 Author Report Share Posted August 28 Yeah my quarter light windows on front doors have a very firm rubber seal which makes it difficult to get a good seal. ill also need to strip out the rear wind down windows and see what the lower level outer scraper setup is, as one side is currently missing 🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 business coupe eliminated that completely 😄.......the quarter light (vent windows) unless they changed their mold, Steele is horrible look and fit, not near original at all. I offered Steele a set of nice though age hardened rubber for correct profile right down to the part number very much like new showing the part number and everything and their answer is we have a working model and no one is complaining.....I said hello, what is this but a complaint, what you have is a rendition and no one at Steele is listening to the customer and their answer was, you should not have bought a Mopar.....really, this is how you respect your customer. They could go tits up and I would likely dance in the street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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