Ignition lock question 48 Dodge ?

[Bryan]

Trying to take the ignition lock cylinder apart on my 1948 Dodge. Noticed that Rock Auto has ignition lock cylinders with keys from 1949 up.  Has anyone tried a later lock cylinder in the 1948 switch? More progress.  Normally you have to pick the lock if you don't have the key. The little brass pin won't let the lock turn, and you have to turn it to press it down. We drove it forward and out. Then I had to pick the lock anyway to take it apart. It has a clip at the end near the ignition terminal, you have to pull that out.  Still the cylinder won't slide out. I finally picked the lock, and it turned. Don't turn it but 90 degrees clockwise, and don't pull it out all at once. It has pins on the top AND bottom. Keep the top ones from falling out (they are different lengths).  As you pull the cylinder out little by little, expose the bottom pins in the outer sleeve (pins are spring loaded). As they fall out (one at a time) put them in order on the table. Don't know what I'll do now...still no code printed on the lock parts.

Edited November 13, 2017 by Bryan
Made progress..and mis-spelled.

[DonaldSmith]

It seems that a PO had a modern ignition lock in my 47 DeSoto, which I replaced with a '40s lock.  You could wire a modern lock to turn the key all the way clockwise to start the engine, and/or use the starter button.   

[Bryan]

 

Brother and I got it open, had to use force.  Haven't found any key code on the cylinder yet.

 

 

 

 

Edited November 17, 2017 by Bryan
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[dpollo]

The lock cylinders are pretty much interchangeable.  

[casper50]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1940-1941-1942-1946-1947-Dodge-Chrysler-Desoto-Plymouth-Ignition-Switch-USA-Made/401441071397?hash=item5d77c0a125:g:pMUAAOSwlY1ZJxoK&vxp=mtr

 

[Oldguy48]

 I purchased a replacement lock cylinder from NAPA for my 1948 Plymouth.  It was an Echlin KS6482.  I would guess that Dodge and Plymouth used the same lock cylinders.

Edited November 13, 2017 by Oldguy48
misspelled word

[MackTheFinger]

I've had them cut for cars and motorcycles, foreign and domestic, that for one reason or another came to me without keys. Last one I had cut cost $8.00 and it was a 2 sided foreign motorcycle key. 

One of my friends who most people would call an unsavory character can pick a lock in about 5 seconds. He can't make a key, guess he never needed one.. 

[Dartgame]

Take it to a lock smith ?

[Bryan]

6 hours ago, Dartgame said:

Take it to a lock smith ?

Called the only one in town..he had never done an older car lock. Rate was $30 an hour.

[Oldguy48]

Looks like that replacement lock cylinder is less than $20 at NAPA. 

[bobostski]

The drivers door lock and the ignition should be the same key. My 49 Chrysler came without keys and I took out the door lock and had a key made for it.  The key then worked perfectly in the ignition. It cost me $65 but i thought that was better than taking the lock apart like your doing.

[Bryan]

Anyone know how the inside of the ignition switch works?  I see a brass tab, but don't know how it works with the new lock cylinder.

[Bryan]

Figured out what was wrong. The new lock cylinder I bought had the tab end broke off. I switched it with my old tab, ignition switch works.  But I still don't know how the tab & contact interact.

New tab with top broke off.

 

Old tab

[Bryan]

And a slight pisser..the ignition key that I bought on Ebay is not the same profile as my door lock. Won't even fit the door lock without pins in it.  According to ILCO lock site, 1199B and 1199G were supposed to be the same profile. Guess the ignition is something else. Edit: Found the correct profiles: 1199B & 1199G are different

Edited November 18, 2017 by Bryan