Laporte Indiana

[1948Skip]

Anybody from around the Laporte Indiana area? I am looking for a business that was or is still there but may be under another name.

The Deluxe Products Corp.

I have an oil canister that was made by this outfit.

Thanks guys

Skip

[Merle Coggins]

What do you need to know. I know a couple of people in LaPorte.

I also have a Deluxe filter on my truck. Mine calls for the "JC" cartridge which crosses to a Napa 1011, or a Wix 51011, or a Baldwin JC405. Any filter manufacturer will have a cross for it. Those are the three that I have catalogs for.

Merle

[1948Skip]

Merle,

Your a life saver. That is just the information I was trying to find. Another question. Does your filter canister have a full cover gasket? Does it have a spring inside the lid?

Thanks for the info.

Skip

[Merle Coggins]

Here are a couple of pics for you.

This is my filter canister after I got it cleaned up. There should be a gasket between the cover and the canister, and there is no spring in there anywhere.

And this is what the cartridge should look like. It will fit tightly in the canister. The rounded end goes up against the cup inside the lid. There is a wire attached to that end to assist with removal.

I hope this helps you.

Merle

[1948Skip]

Merle,

It sure does help. I see that I am missing the perforated cup. I took this filter canister off a 1950 Plymouth truck engine. It was tight when I opened it up telling me the previous owner was running without a filter. I can see by your pictures that the seal is covering the entire lid.

All in all the filter is built rather well. I will try and find the perforated cup to complete the assembly.

Thanks Merle for the help in the pictures.

Skip

[Merle Coggins]

Good luck with your search. You may end up buying another complete filter. My truck didn't have a filter when I got it. I found my filter on ebay, and I still see them there from time to time. I think I paid around $10 + shiping for it. When I opened it up it was full of sludge, which made it appear that it was packed full of grease. It also had the wrong filter cartridge in it. Here is a pic of the filter that was in it (fore ground of the photo with my rusty, crusty air filter). This cartridge couldn't have done any filtering in this canister. There was no way to seal it off. I feel sorry for the engine this came off of.

[1948Skip]

That was the reason I asked if there was a spring in the canister. I know if the filter is not sealed top and bottom, the oil will just flow through and not be filtered.

I'll be on the look out for filters. I bought a complete filter canister from South Carolina the other day. I paid $46 for it off E-Bay.

A little elbow grease and paint and the insurance that the oil is filtered is worth it.

My P-15 has the Wix throw-a-way filter on now. I have two left and don't want to buy any more. The cost is to high.

Thanks for all the help Merle.

Skip

[Don Coatney]

Not all filters have the perforated cup. Some have a spring such as the pictured filter. The spring is located in the center of the lid.

[Merle Coggins]

What brand filter assembly is that one, Don? Skip is looking for info on the Deluxe brand. If it is a Deluxe, which model is it, and what cartridge does it take?

Skip, does your filter reference the cartridge required? On mine it is stamped into the lid with the brand name. That's how I got the "JC" cartridge to cross. The Napa 1011 fit perfectly.

[Don Coatney]

I do not know the brand name of the filter. I had a couple of these by-pass filter assemblies at one time but I sold them on the bay. Both used the pictured cartridge.

[Merle Coggins]

Here is what is a shot of the lid of mine. With this information and the Napa Master Filter catalog I was able to find the correct filter cartridge as shown above. Does this match your's, Skip?

[Norm's Coupe]

Anybody from around the Laporte Indiana area? I am looking for a business that was or is still there but may be under another name.

The Deluxe Products Corp.

I have an oil canister that was made by this outfit.

Thanks guys

Skip

Do you have an address to go along with the company name? Lots of smaller companies were bought out by larger ones in the 70's and early 80's. In checking the manufacturing directory for LaPorte there is no Deluxe Products Corp. listed. The only oil related company now listed in LaPorte is Modine Manufacturing. They are listed as making oil coolers. However, it could have been Deluxe at one time and Modine bought them out, then in time converted production to oil coolers instead of filters.

Also, did you try checking with telephone information and calling? Not all companies are listed anywhere on the internet, unless you really do some deep searches and spend hours/days looking for them. Many companies are also not listed in the manufacturing directories. That cost them money and really doesn't help sales that much. Helps sales people find them better to sell their wares, so they don't list in the book. So.....just because they are not in my book, it doesn't mean they aren't there.

Another way to possibly find them if they moved. Go to any large library with a good reference section. Then look for the Thomas Register books. You might find them listed in there if they are still around someplace. The Thomas Register books are set up to find companies and products in two ways. Either by product or by alphabet by company name. However, in the product section, again those are paid ad pages and you might not find them there. It's best to just look for the company by name. Even this book doesn't show all companies, just most of them. It only shows companies where they make their finances public record. Many privately owned companies won't be in there either.

[Merle Coggins]

They're not in the Thomas book that I have. I believe they were either bought up a long while back, or they went belly up way back when. At least several current filter manufacturers carry cross references to them.

On Fram's web site they cross the Deluxe JC to a C120E. They also reference the ACDelco C231, Big A 92011, Carquest 85011, Allis-Chalmers DE57096, DE57141, and DE57148, along with Chrysler 1503493, 1503495, and 1504092 filters.

Merle

[Norm's Coupe]

They're not in the Thomas book that I have. I believe they were either bought up a long while back, or they went belly up way back when. At least several current filter manufacturers carry cross references to them.

On Fram's web site they cross the Deluxe JC to a C120E. They also reference the ACDelco C231, Big A 92011, Carquest 85011, Allis-Chalmers DE57096, DE57141, and DE57148, along with Chrysler 1503493, 1503495, and 1504092 filters.

Merle

Merle, I'm thinking the same thing about Deluxe. It's like Guide Manufacturing who made the old rearview mirror's, aftermarket backup lights, etc. That company was also in Indiana (forgot the exact city now). After a little research last year I found out that Guide was bought out by Delco many years ago. Still have the plant in the same building, just make different things now.

It's the same with Fulton Manufacturing who made the outside sunvisors years ago. They did move out of Milwaukee but are still going strong making towing equipment, etc. However, no one there has any knowledge of the old Fulton visors.

[1948Skip]

Boy I'm telling you. You guys are awsome.

Merle, The filter is exactly like yours and has everything stamped on the lid. I think I will need to find the perforated cone. Don is correct in that some filters have springs to seal the cartridge to the bottom of the canister. Now I have more numbers of filter cartridges. Can't beat that.

I also checked the Laporte manufacturing base but could not come up with anything.

Norm's coupe, Is this Modine the same company that makes hanging heaters that can be used in a garage and supplied with hot water from a furnace? I have information on a Modine that makes these heaters. Maybe I need to contact this modine in Laporte.

Like I said you guys are awsome in that a question is asked and up pops a bunch to offer help. What more could a guy ask for.

Skip

[1948Skip]

Another update, As soon as I get the filter canister from South Carolina I will let you know which one I will use. I am in the process of cleaning up the JC filter and painting it to give it the protection it deserves. I will still search for a cone.

Skip

[Robert Thornton]

1948 skip I have some old filters if you just need top with cone i might just have one I could send you. I worke 12 hour shifts could cheack friday if you like. if you need canister you can have it to e-mail rwthornton@mindspring .com good luck Robert t.

[1948Skip]

Robert, I am happy with your offer. Let me ask, is the cone staked fast to the screw? My screw is smooth and shows no marks. Maybe Merle can come in on this and clarify this. I was looking at one of Merles pictures but could not make out if the cone is fastened or not. I would hope the cone is free of the screw for cleaning.

I'll keep your e-mail handy and let you know.

Skip

[Norm's Coupe]

Boy I'm telling you. You guys are awsome.

Merle, The filter is exactly like yours and has everything stamped on the lid. I think I will need to find the perforated cone. Don is correct in that some filters have springs to seal the cartridge to the bottom of the canister. Now I have more numbers of filter cartridges. Can't beat that.

I also checked the Laporte manufacturing base but could not come up with anything.

Norm's coupe, Is this Modine the same company that makes hanging heaters that can be used in a garage and supplied with hot water from a furnace? I have information on a Modine that makes these heaters. Maybe I need to contact this modine in Laporte.

Like I said you guys are awsome in that a question is asked and up pops a bunch to offer help. What more could a guy ask for.

Skip

If you run an internet check I'm sure Modine has a web site. Modine is into many heating and cooling items and has several plants around the world, so yes it's the same base company. However, Modine's main headquarters is in Racine, WI. Check their web site and you should find the right pew to ask whatever the question you have is.

[Merle Coggins]

That cup didn't come off of the screw, but it wasn't locked to it. It could spin independantly. I don't recall now, but I think there may have been a small circlip (snap-ring) holding it on. I left it all together when I cleaned it up.

Merle

[1948Skip]

Merle,

My cap has a full coverage seal rubber about 1/8 inch thick. The screw does not have a snap ring groove. Could I have newer style canister that does not need this cone? Or did somebody play games?

Norm,

I was on the web site as I am still in the process of puting heat on the first floor of the garage. I am planning on some hydronic heaters with fans in the back. I have a furnace in the garage just for the garage. The garage (28 X 48) has two floors with my other toys up stairs.

I really need to thank you guys for all the help.

Skip

[Merle Coggins]

I suppose it would work without the cup. All it does is hold down on the top of the filter. The filter is like a stuffed sock. It fits tightly in the canister. The oil comes in the bottom connection and comes out of the inner pipe about half way up. The oil then migrates through the filter media and up to the top where it can run out of the upper port and drain back into the sump. The only problem I could see would be that the filter could push up and block the flow of oil out the upper port.

[Tony_Urwin]

I have the same DeLuxe (I guess it's a DeLuxe) filter in my B1C. I changed the oil and filter today with a NAPA 1011 filter. A new rubber gasket comes packaged with the filter. The perforated cone in my filter is not attached in any way, it simply sits atop the filter and the mounting bolt goes right through the lid and the cone.