Pricey Plymouth

[Normspeed]

Anyone seen the RARE 53 Plymouth wagon on the bay with a $58,000 starting bid? Yup, three zeroes, that's not a typo.

I think I'll hold on to mine until the going price is $100,000 or more....

[Normspeed]

Forgot the link

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150147321405

[Norm's Coupe]

That is one nice looking 53 Plymouth (except the top, don't like chopped tops). Would not pay that kind of money though. However, the price is typical of the "asking" prices you see today for nice customs and street rods. If you have a Good Guys magazine, just look at the cars for sale in there. Those prices are way up there too, even for the cars that have never been touched.

The big Street Rod Nationals show is going on now, this weekend in Louisville, KY. At that show you'll usually see a sign in about every other car that says For Sale, with a nice high price tag on it. I remember at one NSRA show in Louisville a guy sat down at the table with us to eat his lunch. Said he was there the previous year and didn't have enough money with him, or his trailer to buy a car. (Lived around Boston I think). Then he said he came prepared this year and wasn't going home without a car on the trailer. Opened up an attaché case full of cash and claimed there was $25,000 in it to buy the car with. This was the early 90's and you could buy lots of nice cars then for that kind of money. Today, those prices are about double, so $58,000 asking is probably in the ballpark. Again, I would not pay that kind of money for a car either, but others will.

[Normspeed]

Too bad he chopped it. I like chopped cars, but on this car, it looks kinda strange.

[Guest 50Plymouth]

Wow. That would buy a nice house around here

[Norm's Coupe]

Wow. That would buy a nice house around here

Hmmmmmm........maybe I should sell my house and move to western Iowa if you can still buy houses for only $58,000 there.

[Normspeed]

There really are a few places where housing is that reasonable. I found one too, and bought. And it's a good thing as I would never be able to afford retirement in California, The Golden State.

[Guest 50Plymouth]

Since the thread is off topic anyway ...

Single-family new house construction building permits:

* 1996: 0 buildings

* 1997: 0 buildings

* 1998: 3 buildings, average cost: $60,000

* 1999: 4 buildings, average cost: $61,300

* 2000: 2 buildings, average cost: $80,000

* 2001: 2 buildings, average cost: $93,300

* 2002: 1 building, cost: $69,000

* 2003: 2 buildings, average cost: $45,000

* 2004: 2 buildings, average cost: $62,500

* 2005: 0 buildings

* 2006: 0 buildings

If you're bored enough to read stats about this city: (oddly enough I don't own a home here though!) How many libraries have an annual budget of just $1,700

http://www.city-data.com/city/Clearfield-Iowa.html

[PatS....]

$58,000 would about cover realtors commision around here. News said today average price here last month was $506,000!!! Nuts.

Wanna rent? Fergit about it!

[Guest 50Plymouth]

There really are a few places where housing is that reasonable. I found one too, and bought. And it's a good thing as I would never be able to afford retirement in California, The Golden State.

The golden state? As in gold bricks required to afford parking your car? One thing I will say about moving from a real city rural-ward: my car insurance obviously dropped through the roof, ..and the floor, ...and the basement.

Trade offs, trade offs. Granted in surrounding towns there are of course some pretty rundown places. Still, its weird for some families to have a couple vehicles that approach or equal home value.

[Reg Evans]

WOW !!!!! In my part of California ( The Sticks ) a yard of concrete costs approximately $116 after tax and delivery from a 10 yard truck. A 2 x 4" wall stud costs about $4.50 and a sheet of 1/2 " 4 x 8' drywall is around $6.00. As a general building contractor after materials and labor and permit fees a new (very small home) would cost me more than that to build at my cost. Then there is the well,and septic and grading and driveway etc. Is the land free there and do people there work for nothing ????????? I'm with Norm....here I come.

[steveplym]

Pretty much the same thing down here in Illinois. If you get used to the high taxes, high utility bills, and low income as well as the jobless market, it will work out great! I bought a large manufactured home with above ground pool, 3 car garage and large lot for 85k.

Last house I owned was a 3 bedroom, 2 bath, on a small lot. Just sold it for $43k.

[Norm's Coupe]

Pretty much the same thing down here in Illinois. If you get used to the high taxes, high utility bills, and low income as well as the jobless market, it will work out great! I bought a large manufactured home with above ground pool, 3 car garage and large lot for 85k.

Last house I owned was a 3 bedroom, 2 bath, on a small lot. Just sold it for $43k.

I don't know. You and 50plymouth have it good I guess. Even down in Louisville the housing prices average between $150,000 to $200,000 and above, and that's for a smaller house and lot. Property taxes are rock bottom cheap down there though compared to Wisconsin. Around here it's hard to find just a piece of land for $50,000, much less a house and lot. About the only houses you'll find around here for that kind of money is a small one room cabin on a lake if you're lucky. To get a house and lot for that price you have to go into the slum area and those are even up to about $40,000 to $50,000 now. As for property taxes, Wisconsin has almost the highest in the country. If you average the annual property tax on my house to 12 equal monthly payments it would be more than my monthly house payment was when I bought the house in 1973. Somethings wrong with that picture.

You guys have it made with those kinds of prices for a nice house and lot.

So Reg, where we movin to? Iowa, or down in Illinois by Steven?

[Norm's Coupe]

Here's what you get for $60,000 in Milwaukee. Note how close the houses are to each other and the small yard. Back yards in that area are maybe big enough for a picnic table and a couple of extra chairs. Garage is off the alleys, no driveways. Also, if you want to move to this location you might want to install bullet proof windows and invest in some bullet proof vest.

Link to ad. http://wihomes.com/property/property.asp?Broker=&PRM_MLSNumber=0950287&PRM_MlsName=MetroMLSVOW

[Don Coatney]

For your real estate needs in Tennessee contact Lisa Coatney.

This posting is for retirement purposes so I can catch up with Dennis.

[Dennis Hemingway]

For your real estate needs in Tennessee contact Lisa Coatney.

This posting is for retirement purposes so I can catch up with Dennis.

Way to go Don, Kathy just went back to work, her boss will give her days off when ever we want to leave for a few days.

Dennis:D

[Plymouthy Adams]

Lisa Coatney...Realtor...and a dang good cook also...

[Guest 50Plymouth]

The really bad land thats hilly and covered with flesh piercing plants can be found oftentimes under 1,200-1,500 an acre, the cheapest\poorest county is just a few miles away. I think there may have been some land under 1k not a terribly real long time ago. And sometimes if your lucky it just may have a junky house to tear down and a well \ utilities already in place!... I hear it really jumped from a few years back even for the poorest counties here, but like I said you have to beat the Amish in such northern MO, souther IA counties. I know one family that moved from the city, purchased 40 acres for an amount you don't want to know, and bought an old unused 2,500 sq.ft. house for less than few K, but paid about 20,000 to have it moved. Granted, the have renovation work. Getting a foundation and installing geothermal heating\cooling isn't cheap but they were thrilled and will be completely debt free! No mortgage(s)

Of course in such areas there really isn't much economy, no white collar industry if thats your background, and incomes are proportionately smaller. Our household income actually dropped a little more than 2/3 and a whole bunch of benefits to live here, and thats with college degrees and some grad training. Before starting the family my wife worked for a robotics company that makes welding and paint robots for the auto industry I don't think that's happening around here

Trade offs ...so as well already know, theres always an "equal and opposite reaction", its not just physics, its economics!

[steveplym]

We have the same problems down here. The county I live in is ranked in the top ten of jobless residents. Coal mines shut down 15 years ago and the factory jobs are starting to leave as well. I live in a town of about 6500 people.

We've got the wally world and mickey d's. That's about the biggest industry we have.

It's all a trade off I guess like Ryan suggested.