What kind of damage or trouble?

[Fernando Mendes]

  On 10/29/2014 at 6:29 PM, Don Coatney said:

If your engine requires 6 quarts then add 6 quarts. Run the engine until everything comes up to pressure. Then check the dip stick. If the oil level is not showing full adjust the length of the dip stick tube as required.

   

[Fernando Mendes]

Today I talked with my mechanic Joseph and he thought too the level oil is very high.The old oil is with a grey color and we felt a cold in our fingers as if it was made by water.Did it loose its properties because its level was above the normal?

[Jeff Balazs]

Fernando;

My engine which is a 230 with a filter holds 6 US quarts. The tube is 10" long and the dipstick extends 15" into the tube. The full mark is up 3.25" from the end of the dipstick.

 

It is possible that your oil has been diluted with gasoline. Raw gas can enter the crankcase via a leaking diaphragm on the fuel pump. Also it can happen via an overly rich fuel mixture. Either issue is serious and can do a lot of damage. Try smelling the oil......if it smells like gasoline you probably have this problem.

 

Hope this helps.

Jeff

Edited October 31, 2014 by Jeff Balazs

[DJ194950]

Grey coloring in oil usually indicates water. Is oil a thicker consistency? It will get that way with water and oil level will rise. Radiator will get lower.

 

Check the smell as recommended by Jeff. Gas will have a heavy smell of it.  Water in oil will not.

 

Just overfilling will not change color.

 

 

DJ

[Fernando Mendes]

  On 10/31/2014 at 6:43 PM, Jeff Balazs said:

Fernando;

My engine which is a 230 with a filter holds 6 US quarts. The tube is 10" long and the dipstick extends 15" into the tube. The full mark is up 3.25" from the end of the dipstick.

 

It is possible that your oil has been diluted with gasoline. Raw gas can enter the crankcase via a leaking diaphragm on the fuel pump. Also it can happen via an overly rich fuel mixture. Either issue is serious and can do a lot of damage. Try smelling the oil......if it smells like gasoline you probably have this problem.

 

Hope this helps.

Jeff

Ok.My engine is a 251.We did yesterday a dipstick with 16,5".My tube is 10".My last change was in december 2013.Today I withdrew all the pan oil,stays the oil in filter.Tomorrow I will put liter per liter a new oil(20W-50) with care observing the dipstick mark.My fuel pump diaphragm is not original(adapted)but it is new.Tomorrow I will see the smell(gas) or milky color(water).3,25" is for 230 not 251 engine,no?Many thanks for your help. 

[Jeff Balazs]

Fernando;

It would be most helpful to see a photo of where your dipstick tube actually enters. Is it near the bottom of the engine block ? or does it go in through the side of the oil pan like almost all of the light trucks? If it is the type that goes through the side of the oil pan than the measurement I gave you should be very close.

 

I tried looking through the photos posted and it is a bit confusing as to which photos are of your actual truck engine.

 

Jeff

[Fernando Mendes]

 It go in through the side of the oil pan.Actually it is with tube(10") and dipstick(16,5").My camera is with a problem.Do you want a pic?

[Jeff Balazs]

Fernando;

OK you have a truck type oil pan then. Go ahead and put 5 US quarts in the oil pan. Then mark the spot on the dipstick that shows that oil level as the full point.

 

I am going to guess that the oil level is about 1.75" +/- below the point that the tube screws into the fitting on the side of the oil pan.

 

Jeff

[Fernando Mendes]

 "I am going to guess that the oil level is about 1.75" +/- below the point that the tube screws into the fitting on the side of the oil pan."

1)Days ago before I put the tube screwded into the fitting I measured with a ruler and  gave me +/- 2" to 2 1/2" below this point.When I saw this I thought: it is much oil and can cause leak!

2)Another idea:Marking the spot in the dipstick is good to observe if is or not entering gas via fuel pump diaphragm.(increasing oil) 

[Jeff Balazs]

Fernando;

This level in the oil pan should be correct and will not cause it to leak. If do have you have leaks something else is the cause.

 

When you check your oil level you should not see any dramatic changes in the level. Any dramatic change in oil level would be an indication of a serious problem.

 

Hope this helps, Jeff

[Fernando Mendes]

Ok Jeff.I think my job arrived in the end.Now is only to put the truck to run and observe.Best regards.