Jeff Balazs Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 Hi All; I am looking for jetting charts for our truck carbs. I found some specifics in the Chrysler Industrial engine manual but I am unsure if this data is valid for the non stationary engines. I am looking for specific Carter jet numbers for the various model B & Bs that our trucks came equipped with and perhaps a master jet size list or chart. Data on Strombergs would be welcome too. Maybe we could pool all our info in this one spot. If you have any of this data could you please post it here? Thanks, Jeff Quote
Don Coatney Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 Have searched for this information in the past to no avail. You might call George Asche as he may have that information. Is there a reason you need to re-jet? Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 Tell me what specific truck model and year and I can look up specific jets in my Master Carter book. Bob Quote
Jeff Balazs Posted January 31, 2014 Author Report Posted January 31, 2014 Hi Don; Well to begin with I think it would be helpful if we knew what the factory spec's were for the various models of carb's fitted on these vehicles. When we get one of these trucks...... or cars it is not safe to assume that all is as it is supposed to be. Lord knows what the PO's have done or if what we have is close to correct. And then of course there are set ups like mine that has a later and slightly larger engine in place of the original. What I am trying to do is first to establish what is correct as it was built......and then what might be done to get it as close to correct as possible. In other words....if I knew what jets were supposed to be fitted and I found that something else had been fitted......then I could perhaps get it back to spec. Also I imagine there are others here that will go through some of this same thing with their trucks.....and it would be helpful to know where to start. I think mine is running a bit on the rich side. Could be wear related or perhaps it isn't jetted correctly. Bob.......My truck is a 52 B-3-C fluid drive 4 speed with a DTG1 dashpot B & B fitted. Thanks, Jeff Quote
HanksB3B Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) I'm glad you started this thread as I am also looking for this information. My best guess as to where it might be found is a carburetor repair shop that's been in business for over half a century. More likely a business located in the North East, Mid West or in Don's neck of the woods. Davin found an authentic Carter rebuild kit in original packaging with many more parts than a current rebuild kit. I'm hoping there's some documentation that may have a carburetor and jet chart. I called my Carb Shop while typing Tim is looking for the book now...found it and told me it's on the counter now come down. (Second time in two days Jeff actually made me drive somewhere telepathically). Will report my findings doubt he'd sell it but maybe my mobile phone will take some good pictures ? Keep your fingers crossed, Hank I just saw Dodgeb4ya's post: How about scanning the book ? What Jeff say's above is so true, Edited January 31, 2014 by HanksB3B Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted February 1, 2014 Report Posted February 1, 2014 (edited) Here's some pics out of the Carter book for the DTG1... Enlarge the pics and they are clearer. Best shots I could take. Bob Edited February 1, 2014 by Dodgeb4ya 1 Quote
HanksB3B Posted February 1, 2014 Report Posted February 1, 2014 (edited) Tim at my local carb shop was good enough to remove the complete Dodge Section of the original Carter Carburetor Shop Manual. It's a clean flat copy and I have a pretty good scanner. The charts should help me see how or if I can jet my running E7T1. The Carter manual shows it is for a 1-1/2, 2, 2-1/2, 2-3/4 and 3 ton truck. I know the bore size is the 1-9/16" which is the same as the correct DTG1 for my truck but if possible I can re-jet to matchthe DTG1 (which I think is correct for my 1951 B3B). Now I have to really take the measurement to see if my engine is a 218 or 230. When you send your carb to a rebuilder, make sure you know the carb number and make some identifying marks in the casting to be sure it's your carb being returned to you. Hank Edited February 1, 2014 by HanksB3B Quote
Jeff Balazs Posted February 1, 2014 Author Report Posted February 1, 2014 Bob; Thanks very much. You are a Gentleman and a Scholar and I salute you. Out of curiosity the Chrysler Industrial engine book states the following Carter parts numbers for these items for the DTG1 carb. A) Main metering Jet ......Carter # 224-11S Step up Jet........Carter # 149-41S C) Accelerating Jet .........Carter # 48-103 D) Idle orifice Tube........Carter #123-31S It does not give the actual sizing however. I wonder if you would be able to either confirm these parts numbers or have a cross reference that gives an actual Carter part number for these items as they are described on the pages you scanned? I am thinking that if one were to have to hunt down new jets etc......we would need to know the Carter part number......but perhaps I am wrong. Thank you again for taking the time to respond to this. Jeff Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted February 1, 2014 Report Posted February 1, 2014 Both the pages I posted are showing both Carter factory part numbers and jet sizes for the DTG1 carb and also list those same industrial Carter part numbers you just posted. First page lists all the needed jet sizes second page shows all the internal Carter part numbers for the DTG1 carb. Quote
Jeff Balazs Posted February 1, 2014 Author Report Posted February 1, 2014 Bob; Again thank you very much. I apologize...I missed that...must need new glasses. This is just exactly what I was hoping to find. Hopefully this information will go on to help a lot of us sort things out. Hank. Cudos on that find. Just the sort of effort we all have come to expect from you. I owe you a pastrami sandwich and a cold one. One step closer....heh? Jeff Quote
HanksB3B Posted February 1, 2014 Report Posted February 1, 2014 (edited) Bob; Again thank you very much. I apologize...I missed that...must need new glasses. This is just exactly what I was hoping to find. Hopefully this information will go on to help a lot of us sort things out. Hank. Cudos on that find. Just the sort of effort we all have come to expect from you. I owe you a pastrami sandwich and a cold one. One step closer....heh? Jeff Glad you guys figured it out. I'll be working with my scanner during the course of the weekend and try to get the best possible results. Jeff thanks, I'm looking forward to seeing your truck in person and experiencing the braking power and taller final drive. Bet it's nice. Hank Edited February 1, 2014 by HanksB3B Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted February 1, 2014 Report Posted February 1, 2014 Here's the big Carter Carb Book if anyone wants it...http://www.ebay.com/itm/370613956723?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648 Bob Quote
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